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  1. brb

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    Controversial :)
     
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    The democratic system of the UK should be respected, this includes referendums chosen by the majority of MP's in parliament. You cannot pick and chose which ones you recognise according to your political views.
     
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    about sums it up for me :)
     
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    Partially true I suppose. Yes it applies to England, but other countries are a bit more enlightened. For example, I hold a dual nationality. I chose to come here to live, yet retain all my rights in Australia as there was neither the desire for me to give them up, nor any legal requirement for me to do so. There really is no reason for England to take such an insular view when there are many around them with the opposite view.
     
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    I believe Australia also has strict rules regarding some things. All I care about is my homeland, either other people fit in or ship out, regardless of colour, religion or anything else. The European freight train is gradually eroding cultures, nationalities and borders, to me it is more destructive of freedom then any dictator has ever been in history, but more from a peaceful perspective, the silent enemy within.
     
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    Since when was Britain ever 'trodden on' by the EU. Of all laws passed by the EU. Britain only voted against 2% of them - Britain actually had its own way more than any other EU. nation. You are also forgetting that many people do not actually choose to cross the Channel - multi national firms send their workers here and there without any reference to national borders.
     
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    How many of the European freight train are there in the UK. ? We're talking here about less than 4% of the population - hardly sufficient to destroy a culture. Tourism has a much more damaging influence, in this respect, than migration.
     
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    The EU have over trodden on our government on a very serious matter in the past and i will never forget it. It was the EU through their stupid rules that put the cherry on the top to the last economic crash.

    All i see from your perspective, is a selfish view of you living or working abroad, i expect you've had your rewards for doing so, sadly it lost you the right to vote.
     
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    Who said I was talking about this country. I don't think i mentioned the UK or even England in that sentence, what I'm on about is as a whole is a one state, which I'm against and new generations were being cloned into. I didn't even mention migration, yet again another assumption on your part. It's like I say everyone wants to jump on the negative band wagon without listening to those that won the democratic vote.
     
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    I find it funny how you can give a view, but people allow there bias thoughts to interpret your comments to fit their own means.
     
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    You speak of eroding cultures, which is the by product of globalization. We end up with the same Coca Cola being drunk everywhere, the same Nike shoes, the same crappy pop music etc. etc. This is a result of World wide free market economics (which actually gives us less choice in the end) not specifically to do with the EU. In fact 'Americanization' is a bigger threat to the British way of life (and many other countries), than immigration or the EU. could ever be.
     
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    It has - as does everywhere on the planet. but the issue you raised was one of rights, not rules.

    As do I - with the difference that I have two, and agree that fitting in is important. What I can't agree with is a blanket 'Thou shalt not come here' if you happen to belong to certain ethnic backgrounds disliked by, for example, the Trump Administration. Especially when the only crime those ethnics have committed is to have come from a country which has not reached trade agreements with the USA.

    if you look at the history of the world to date though, you'll find that every such Empire - as that's what the EU is - reaches an end. The British Empire is just about there now, and the USA is currently heading in that direction at a great rate of knots. So it will happen. Unfortunately though, the UK government appear to consider that the alternative to staying within the EU Empire at the moment and forgoing some cultural identity, is to sever ties completely with the world's largest trading block in the probably vain hope that trade deals of equal value will pop up from elsewhere to save the day. I think the UK is about to stare into a rather large abyss - and find it odd that 'sovereignty' and some freedoms are preferable to that. Especially when they deny Scotland the right to have exactly what they want themselves.
     
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    You best leave the abyss then if that is trult what you think is going to happen. I'm sure Australia will offer you the riches you so seek.
     
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    *truly
     
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    as for Scotland i would happily vote for it's independence IF.....as a British National i was given the vote haha
     
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    ex pats could not vote on the EU...i could not vote on Scotland, in the words of the black night sketch that makes it a draw :)
     
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    *knight
     
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    I don't seek riches - I'm more interested in a fairness and a better lifestyle for all. If it came to the crunch, I would go back as life is a little easier there. But at the moment I'm happy to wait for Scottish Independence - with the positive belief that that will offer better prospects than either rUK or Australia.
     
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  20. Bolton's Boots

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    So are you a Scottish ex-pat then?
     
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