They are demonstrating because they dislike the result of the largest democratic vote the UK has known. Accept the result and move on.
Why? In a democracy like everywhere else you are allowed to try to change people's minds. I accept the result on 23rd June. It was narrow and it was ill informed. Hopefully in time people will realise that. I wish MPs would vote as they are supposed to - not as sheep for a flawed referendum result. They should vote for the good of the UK. If they do that three quarters of MPs would vote to NOT trigger Article 50. Corbyn should follow the leadership of the LibDems and SNP and vote against the triggering.
Obviously I disagree, in my opinion the MP's should back the will of the people. Anyway lets move on to your list of wishes. If they were carried out the government would call a general election. The result would be a Conservative government with a massive majority that had a clear pathway to Brexit and beyond. This would result in delay but ultimately good for the country as the Tories shaped the future of a truly international UK.
Problem is i imagine May would call a general election and Corbyn would be swept aside..... remember the ivews of folk like SH which the right wing tabloids propogate...
The problem you have to deal with is, unlike the overall impression on these threads, my views are the most popular in the UK. This is both in politics where the country is definitely left of centre and on Brexit. I suggest, in the main, the people that choose to read the so called 'right wing press' are already like minded. It is too easily made as a scapegoat. There are several 'left wing' publications, apart from the Daily Mirror very few want to buy them.
I agree that Corbyn should not bring in a whip over this. However, Corbyn himself had stated that he was about 70% in favour of staying ie. rather lukewarm. We know that around 30% of Labour voters went for Brexit and it is presumed that this was because of immigration - but we don't know for certain. There was always a left wing case for Brexit, which is way people like George Galloway and Arthur Scargill supported it. For them the EU. was a neo liberal club. They had seen the enforced austerity and enforced privatizations in Greece. A future Labour manifesto (presuming Corbyn is still there) would be hard to push through against the background of the EU. Would the nationalization of energy concerns and the railways be possible under present EU. laws ? This explains the dilemma of the left. Many would have felt uncomfortable siding up with the interests of big business on this one. Unfortunately the inevitable is now happening - namely a fawning in America's direction. Which for any left wing Brexiter is nothing short of a nightmare. Labour also has a generational problem in its midst - older Labourites are more likely to be economically left wing, the younger ones more likely to be socially left wing (multi culti etc.) and keeping the 2 together is not easy.
You could be right. However imagine the scenario where it becomes obvious that there is only the option of a hard brexit. Assume even only 10% of brexiters did not want that - they might be tempted to switch sides. If only Tories and UKIP were supporting brxit and millions of Tories - probably half support Remain then if the General Election were made "One Issue" you could get the golden coalition of Labour / Lib Dem and SNP voted in. The breakup of the UK would be averted, the breakup of the EU wouldbe averted. The pound would recover. Inflation would go into reverse. The people you so much support would show their will and you would be happy that the new coalition government would not trigger brexit. It is not so unlikely as you think. We just need the Lords or MPs who know what is best for the UK to start it off.
The government can only call a general election if they engineer a vote of no confidence in themselves. There are a number of mainly Tory MPs with wafer thin majorities who represent seats where people voted to remain. It will be interesting to watch if they put themselves up to be shot down at the next election.
He could have justified a 'free' vote according to constituents etc... but has bought into... the public have voted etc etc
There is a clear view amongst the knowledgeable political commentators that an election in the coming months would result in a Tory landslide. They would consider you hopeful scenario as extremely unlikely.
This is a tricky one. If all MPs voted according to what they think is in the best interests of the country then they would say 'thank you very much for the advisory vote but we have chosen to ignore it'. But for that to happen then it would need to be a cross party thing where no one single party could be cast as the 'anti democracy' party - ie. the guilt (if you call it that) would need to be shared. Just as Churchill, realising that the war would involve making unpopular decisions, declared a wartime coalition for this purpose. I don't like whips at all but if one party is doing it then they all will.
The above is factually incorrect information. There two provisions that can trigger a general election, the above scenario is only one of them. The other is: 'A motion for a general election is agreed by two thirds of the total number of seats in the commons including vacant seats (currently 434 out of 650' The Labour voters in areas where they voted for Brexit would punish their MP's who did not follow their wishes. This is why the LP is in such a flip flop position. I would welcome a general election, bring it on.
If the government lost the Article 50 vote it would trigger a vote of no confidence - one they could lose if it was seen as a way to get the people to rethink brexit
