I don't see why it is. I'm not saying anyone here specifically has done this but a lot of people seem to be calling for the UK to "take control" without really having a clue what they want it to take control of any differently to how it is now.
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I don't see why it is. I'm not saying anyone here specifically has done this but a lot of people seem to be calling for the UK to "take control" without really having a clue what they want it to take control of any differently to how it is now.
400 pages to this thread and no answers, that says all I need to know about politics.
Maybe he should have asked a 'remoaner' to name an EU law? Huffington post? Sky BBC... "there went but a pair of shears between them"
It's not the "remoaners" who want the UK to take back control from the horrible EU who are imposing all these laws we don't want which must be changed right away and only Theresa May can save us.
Problem is you probably (like most of us) don't know exactly what the laws are.
Now I am not talking Bananas or cucumbers being straight or even that we can't eat our pet horses or they tried to stop us selling eggs by the dozen I am talking seriously about laws protecting our citizens.
You may say this could happen anywhere and it probably could but last year a 14-year-old girl Alice Gross was coming home from school and was murdered by a Latvian who was already a murderer. He was allowed in this country because "The EU does not compel members to share information on their criminals". Go and chat to her parents and mock the 'Horrible EU' to them, because they want to know why our state has let them down letting in convicted killers because of stupid EU law.
It's a horrible thing to have happened although the principle behind this is freedom of movement more than specific laws passed.
Do local authorities alert other local authorities about the movements of convicts from their areas to others.
As I say, it's tragic but not more tragic than, say the blokes from Essex who stabbed a man in Ipswich a few months ago or someone getting killed by a relative.
For those that believe in the EU they think of EU citizens in the same way as you think of other Brits. It's a matter of what you think is the set to which you belong.
As I said it could happen anywhere but sadly in this case due to EU laws he couldn't be identified as a murderer which meant he could come ito the UK and a kill that girl. Under our own laws he wouldn't/shouldn't have been allowed in (hopefully)? We have enough of our own wrong uns for the police to deal with we don't need the rest of the worlds freaks.
It's still not really a good example of laws that need to be changed or prevented. The freedom of movement that didn't alert anyone still will exist, it's the catchment area of the UK's borders rather than the EU's that's changing.
I disagree, in fact, it is a very good example of how Laws made in another country affect us. He came into this country legally through customs. If he had been identified as a murderer he should not have been allowed in, simple as. From what I have read and heard we will be checking who comes into his country when the new laws are made and hopefully it will stop many of the undesirables who can roam our streets freely.
People would have a different opinion if it was for their own child's safety.
Of course they would. That doesn't make them right.
There's still nothing stopping our own wrong 'uns from travelling around the UK. If these laws stop more wrong 'uns leaving than foreign wrong 'uns getting in, our wrong 'un numbers will rise.
it's not only people coming in who are a problem, it's the ones we can't deport (Hamza) for instance
Why? Because of EU laws. Our hands have been tied many times with many cases because of EU laws. Thankfully now we are out we can have our own laws. That will include our own wrong uns who always appeal to the EU courts after they are found guilty by our own courts.
I don't understand that last comment at all.
My point is that it's managed by shrinking our borders from the edge of the EU to the edge of the UK. No laws are explicitly changed. It's border control with border checks.
The UK doesn't stop ex criminals from moving around the UK and will continue not to stop them.
new zealanders and australians have freedom of movement between each others countries
but If you’ve got a criminal conviction you’ll need to apply for permission to enter Australia from the Australian High Commission and vise versa
we have enough of our own wrong uns and dont see the need to import others fom abroad
but If you’ve got a criminal conviction you’ll need to apply for permission to enter Australia from the Australian High Commission and vise versa
we have enough of our own wrong uns and dont see the need to import others fom abroad
Do you actually know what you are talking about? Genuine question because you seem to be blurring a number of different legal jurisdictions, and conveniently have found that it's all the fault of the EU as opposed to, for example, the UK's own Human Rights Act or the European Convention of Human Rights. Last time I looked that was a completely different organisation which does not answer to Brussels or Strasbourg.
It's much easier to keep tabs on an offender released on life licence in one jurisdiction. When they cross national borders they can lose themselves and escape scrutiny by the authorities.
If a UK resident murderer, a murderer from a country that alerted the UK and a murderer from a country moved into my town, what different levels of scrutiny would they be under and who would be keeping tabs on them (assuming none were terror suspects or applied for jobs in care or with kids)?
Genuine question and I will re-evaluate my view if there are differences.
In this country, an offender with a life sentence would be supervised by the Probation Service after his/her release and the terms of release would have conditions attached which, if broken, would lead to the offender returning to prison
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