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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC, Nov 20, 2015.

  1. BrAdY

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    GEEZ <laugh>
     
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    In only three years most new cars will be electric according to this presentation.
     
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  4. Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC

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    A few good albums came out on this day.

    CCR's Bayou Country in 1969:


    Bruce Springsteen's Greetings from Asbury Park in 1973:


    Elvis Costello's Armed Forces in 1979:
     
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  7. Fez

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    Be geting my hybrid in April, looking forward to it.
     
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  8. ElTigre

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    You're not going to get the gains with lower maintenance though. You've still got 2,000+ moving parts with your hybrid compared with 18+ in an electric car.
     
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  9. Fez

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    I agree, it's a fair more complicated car, but it is one capable of tackling the driving requirements of my job. Hybrid technology will change, but it is critically important in the mindset and technological transition. Maintenance is incredibly low these days, in comparison to 20 yrs ago, if someone was to have a dig at hybrid, it would be that a full charge only gives you a realistic 19 miles journey (ish). But you start somewhere; or I do, at least.
     
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    Not a dig Fez just puzzled about all this electric vehicle push, it's not just cars by the way. Battery technology is still in the dark ages and it wasn't so long ago, at least in the UK, that our electric generating capacity was in question about being able to keep our lights on never mind charging up electric cars. This electric thing seems to be running parallel along with self drive cars, I agree that it's cleaner, well I think it is as the electricity still has to be generated, but I can't help but feel that more cars on the roads, electric or not, is the last thing we need.
     
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  11. ElTigre

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    A Honda that balances itself and will follow you if you walk on foot.
     
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  12. ElTigre

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    I don't know what you mean by battery technology being in the dark ages. Tesla have a car with a range of over 300 miles and in a little while no doubt that will be a minimum for all electric cars.
     
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  13. Fez

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    I agree with much of what you say. Currently electricity plays a huge role and what is critical to it is how it is used. Storage is the new big step forward and will advance at a rate of knots in the intermediate future. Technology is a bit like us, we start on our backs, learn to sit up, then start crawling, before long we're walking, then running, eventually some are breaking records; technology progresses through stages. You write of electric cars running in parallel with self drive cars and I agree, to a point, as I think the technologies are more coincidental than integrated to one and other. The car I will have is one step away from self drive, with full loading of drive assist packages. Do I think they are all effective? I won't know until I try them for myself.
     
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  14. DMD

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    It's only cleaner at the point of use. The environmental damage from battery production alone tends to out weigh the local gains at the moment.

    As you imply, it's lifestyle changes that are needed.
     
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  15. ElTigre

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    If car sharing takes off in the way predicted for electric vehicles there will be far fewer cars around, far fewer being manufactured.

    Electric cars will come in in a big way because they'll be more powerful and cheaper. Most people won't weigh up the environmental pros and cons anyway.
     
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    Car sharing is just as likely to increase car volumes, by drawing people out of mass transit.
     
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    That looks really cool, but does it stop some **** side swiping you coming out of a side turning or junction whilst not ****ing looking?
     
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    maybe ppl could be charged fares.... and then have a double decker car...... maybe paint them a colour that ppl can identify, say like a blue and white.......... possibly change their names to busses.
     
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    Interesting discussion this. What bothers me is that everyone knows it'd be better environmentally and economically if people used public transport more, yet there doesn't seem to be anything done about how **** and overpriced it is which is the reason people don't use it if they can avoid it.
     
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  20. AlRawdah

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    The way that public transport is structured in this country is uniquely British. Ultimately though, if you want fewer people in cars then make using a car more expensive (or at least more expensive when it is contributing to delays and congestion) - making the alternatives more attractive only gets us so far.

    But there aren't any votes in charging motorists, and there is no long term transport plan in this country that overrides the electoral cycle.
     
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