Before you lift any more old meaningless quotes from pressure groups, check the substance, it made you look rather silly on that last one.
I had never even heard of them. You seem to forget that Davis has written quite a few articles, and if you had ever read them you would find out that he is far more interested in democracy than you seem to be. It is no wonder that because of the splits in cabinet there still is no plan.
Your irrelevant quote was from 2012 when he was talking about a new referendum after the last one was in 1975. It is desperation by any measure to try and link this with the recent referendum. David Davis has been a very long term eurosceptic, his views were clearly known by his constituents when they elected him. His views are still consistent. Read his own statement if you have any doubts. He is very interested in democracy which is why he is desperate for the UK to leave the EU.
David Davis also wrote: "The government was simply trying to avoid proper Parliamentary scrutiny. It was an insult to Parliament and our democracy. " It seems that he is rather more aware of his role in defending peoples rights than you would be.
100% agreed. How can we just circuit all the checks and balances of our great parliamentary democracy??
Interesting view from a guy that often gets things right. Soros' bleak 2017 forecast: Businessman warns EU will FALL after elite 'STOLE democracy' Soros issues alarming 2017 predictions: Businessman warns EU could FALL. By JON ROGERS PUBLISHED: 11:48, Mon, Jan 2, 2017 | UPDATED: 12:01, Mon, Jan 2, 2017 please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image please log in to view this image 15 please log in to view this image 30 Getty US business tycoon George Soros has hit out at the EU GEORGE Soros has warned voters have turned away from mainstream political parties as “many people felt that the elites have stolen their democracy”, in an alarming forecast for the European Union in 2017. The 86-year-old Hungarian-American said Brussels is “on the verge of breakdown” and could even fall under the influence of Vladimir Putin. Writing in a blog, the highly influential businessman warned: “Open societies are in crisis, and various forms of closed societies – from fascist dictatorships to mafia states – are on the rise. “How could this happen? The only explanation I can find is that elected leaders failed to meet voters’ legitimate expectations and aspirations and that this failure led electorates to become disenchanted with the prevailing versions of democracy and capitalism. “Quite simply, many people felt that the elites had stolen their democracy.” In the article, Soros, who is believed to have amassed a personal wealth of around $24.9billion (£20bn), partially blamed the rise of unregulated globalised financial markets and the inability of governments to redistribute wealth. please log in to view this image Getty George Soros (right) in conversation with former US President Bill Clinton He wrote: “The lack of redistributive policies is the main source of the dissatisfaction that democracy’s opponents have exploited.” Mr Soros, once a self-proclaimed “avid supporter” of the European Union, has now turned his back on the bloc saying that after the financial crash of 2008 what was once seen as a relationship of equals as been turned into one of “creditors and debtors” which is “neither voluntary nor equal”. Germany was the main cause of the crash, according to Soros, for only serving its “narrow self-interest” to the detriment of those who rely on it. The EU's craziest decisions Thu, February 18, 2016 THE European Union (EU) bureaucrats have come up with some bonkers directives. Here are the top eleven unusual rules proposed by Brussels that seem too barmy to be true. please log in to view this image please log in to view this image Mr Soros also blamed Angela Merkel as she failed to take a European-wide perspective after the financial meltdown and insisting that each member state should look after its own institutions. The businessman said “that was the start of a process of disintegration” which led to the EU as well as the eurozone becoming “increasingly dysfunctional”. And according to Mr Soros, “democracy is now in crisis”. RELATED ARTICLES please log in to view this image Angela Merkel’s open-door policy 'CAUSED the migrant crisis' please log in to view this image Billionaire George Soros to give £400million to migrants Getty German Chancellor Angela Merkel during her New Year speech But the business tycoon, who is one of the world’s wealthiest people, still has no faith in US President-elect Donald Trump, who he refers to as a “con artist and would-be dictator”. While Mr Soros has some concerns about the future of the US, he is more worried about the future of the EU which he fears could come under the influence of the Russian president. Getty US President-elect Donald Trump He wrote: “In France, the two leading contenders are close to Putin and eager to appease him. If either wins, Putin’s dominance of Europe will become a fait accompli.” Mr Soros said that the EU is “on the verge of breakdown” and likely to follow a similar path of the breakup of the Soviet Union in the early 1990s.
Can you start arguing your own case rather than always relying on external material which takes an eternity to scroll down ? I am glad that you are not part of any British negotiating team on Brexit SH. You appear to want the EU. to collapse, yet what would be the consequences of such an event ? There is, however, nobody here (in Germany) who actually wants Britain to fail after Brexit - there is regret, sadness, but not the vindictive spite which you appear to have.
Is your mind so closed you cannot read material that may offer a different view.? I do not have any vindictive spite, I will leave that to the EU negotiating team. Like the experienced Soros, I put the EU's problems down to the eurocrats who appear to have nothing but distain for the views of the population of Europe. They have their own selfish agenda, although they are correct on one subject, the Euro can only work if the area is run by effectively one government. The fact that nobody else wants this does not seem to bother them. The UK needs a successful Europe to trade with, Brexit is not the danger to the EU, it is the incompatibility of the views of the EU elite with the EU populace.
One of the problems with the EU. is that we have seen the growth of undemocratic structures in Brussels - namely the power struggle which has arisen between the elected EU. Parliament and the unelected EU. Commission - we should be strengthening the one against the other. Europeans can only reclaim the EU. organization through strengthening the EU. Parliament - both against the EU. Commission and against lobbyism. Unfortunately Britain has run away from this struggle. What you seem to wish for is the entire collapse of the EU. We have problems - but, they are solvable. At its best the EU. has become the most successfull voluntary trading block in World history - it has also contributed to maintaining peace in Europe for the last 70 years. It has allowed millions of Europeans to study and learn in other cultures. Has also raised environmental and safety standards over nearly a whole continent. I agree that the Euro was a mistake - but the Euro is not Europe, and, even if it were discontinued, the EU. would still exist afterwards.
Interesting article, particularly to us as we have used the 'Helping Hands' company for help with my father-in-law's care package. He has had a Portuguese young lad washing and dressing him. 'Jet-in' carers fly from Benidorm to Britain amid 'massive' care crisis please log in to view this image Benidorm was the dream for thousands of Brits who wanted to settle abroad CREDIT:JULIAN SIMMONDS please log in to view this image New uranium mine to open in Spain Video: an Australian-British company is opening a new uranium mine in Spain Read more › Sponsored Henry Bodkin Laura Donnelly 1 JANUARY 2017 • 10:00PM Builders, barmaids and bankrupt businessmen are flying into Britain from Spanish holiday spots to earn lucrative sums as care workers for the elderly, amid a spiralling crisis in social care. A Telegraph investigation reveals that thousands of expats are funding lifestyles in the sun by jetting in for fortnightly placements to take sole charge of the vulnerable, with, in many cases, just a few days’ training. British agencies are trawling popular resorts such as Benidorm and Malaga to lure new recruits with the promise of generous earnings, free accommodation and subsidised travel. Experts said the revelations reflected a “massive crisis” in care of the elderly, with high turnover in the sector, and too many pensioners receiving the most intimate care from virtual strangers. The agents boasted of a “huge increase” in the number of expats coming from Spain to earn up to almost £1,700 a fortnight, admitting many of those on their books did not want to look after the vulnerable, but were driven by the cash. It’s an expensive and temporary fix, which will still need to be resolved long after the workers have finished their two week stint Britain’s system of social care is heavily reliant on care workers some of whom are paid for by families, while others are funded directly by the state. But in recent years there has been a growing shortage of workers, with care homes and firms which provide live-in carers and home help struggling to fill jobs looking after the elderly and disabled. Regulators have warned that the crisis has now reached a “tipping point” with widespread care home closures and record levels of bed-blocking in hospitals for want of social care. They are here because they haven’t got any money, where they are coming into a job they don’t want to do Caroline Abrahams, charity director at Age UK, said the revelations were “yet another symptom of a crisis in social care”. The investigation reveals that former builders, barmaids and taxi drivers are among thousands of expats flying back to Britain each month to be responsible for elderly people, those with dementia and learning difficulties. Many of the recruits have no professional qualifications or previous experience of care and are driven to the work by financial desperation after a crippling downturn in the Spanish economy, or to supplement business interests such as bars and restaurants. One told The Telegraph he felt “daunted” being put in sole charge of vulnerable people with only a handbook and a telephone number for a supervisor based elsewhere in the UK to fall back on. please log in to view this image Benidorm remains the most popular resort in Europe CREDIT: JULIAN SIMMONDS The role involves manual handling, intimate washing and dressing responsibilities, as well as supervising the taking of medication and reacting to any emergencies. Some of the care workers are self-employed, meaning their activity is not regulated by the Care Quality Commission (CQC) and they are personally responsible for declaring earnings to the tax authorities. Firms recruiting extensively from abroad are now charging families from around £1,000 a week for live-in care, the investigation found. Consultus, a company recruiting in Spain which charges a fee for placing self-employed live-in carers, admitted it does not conduct physical health and safety inspections of its customers’ homes before sending in new workers. Consultus Projects manager Andrea Daddy said British expats were a “major part” of the business, with many reluctantly turning to the new jobs to boost their incomes. “They are here because they haven’t got any money, where they are coming into a job they don’t want to do and it’s difficult for some of them,” she said. “They are coming to a country they don’t know very well or haven’t been to for years. You’re asking them to do a difficult job.” The firm, which provides 600 live-in carers in the UK at any one time, charges customers a £108-per-week agency fee on top of the sum paid directly to the carer, which can be around £800 a week. Because they work as freelancers, their work is not subject to oversight by CQC. Cuts to councils’ budgets mean the number of people in England receiving care paid for by the state has slumped by one quarter since 2009, leaving increasing numbers of families paying for their own care. Another company, Helping Hands, which has an annual turnover of roughly £65 million a year, said about 15 per cent of customers receiving live-in care were funded by local authorities, such as Worcestershire County Council. Helping Hands alone sends approximately 380 expats into people’s homes each month, the majority of whom live in Spain. David Johnston, 49, a former prison service worker who moved to Spain 11 years ago, said the promise of “extra cash” had convinced him to sign up for work with the agency. Deda Allum, who lives near Benidorm, said the stints in England had allowed to her give up her previous occupation as bar and restaurant worker. “Work is money and money is work,” she said, while former gardener and taxi driver Jose Sanz Garcia said the growing shortages of staff in England were providing willing expats with a “great opportunity”. Dr Sarah Wollaston, chairman of the Commons health select committee said: “We need to completely rethink the way we care for the vulnerable; we should be growing our own workforce, not relying on short-term stints from people flying in from overseas.” “We have got a massive crisis in social care, both in terms of shortages and staff turnover, and also in funding. I’m glad to see recent signs the Prime Minister is acknowledging the scale of the crisis but we can’t go on like this.” please log in to view this image Dr Sarah Wollaston, chairman of the Commons health select committee British companies are increasingly recruiting temporary workers from expat communities in European countries other than Spain, the investigation found. “ We are getting more and more expats coming from France, Portugal, and Greece. They come back here to work in the winter months,” said Ms Daddy, from Consultus Unlike Consultus, Helping Hands care workers are employees and their work is subject to CQC oversight. A spokesman said physical appraisals of customer’s homes are undertaken before workers begin their placements. Charities last night expressed alarm at the evidence of the increased reliance on a temporary workforce, flown in from abroad. Janet Morrison, chief executive of Independent Age, the older people’s charity described the disclosures as “very worrying”. She urged companies caring for the elderly to consider their needs above all. “This appears a very worrying practice. While we understand the difficulties faced by employers, recruitment practice must never be at the expense of providing older people with safe and dignified care.” A Department of Health spokesperson said: "Councils manage their own budgets and should spend funding efficiently given the pressure of an ageing population. People making private arrangements for their care are free to do so - though councils have duties to provide advice and guidance to help them." Consultus’s Andrea Daddy agreed that flying carers in from Spain reflected problems in the social care sector, but said: “If more people are cared for at home, then it follows we will need more people to look after them, and carers are difficult to find. “We need many more in the country as a whole than the UK can provide.” She added that carers working short stints was beneficial to clients because it allowed them to work non-stop and not to take any days off. Karen Rayfield, from Helping Hands, said: “We work with our customers’ individual needs and match them to the availability of our carers. “Many overseas based carers like to work for longer periods of time then taking a week or two break to return home, going back to their customer after a break. please log in to view this image The sun sets on the Costa Brava CREDIT: JULIAN SIMMONDS The dream of la vida loca Sitting in the Bikini Beach Bar, as the sun sets on the Costa Blanca, the plight of Britain’s elderly seems a distant problem. In winter, the sky may not be as blue as that of the holiday brochures – but Europe’s most popular holiday spot remains loyally supported by an expat community who came to Benidorm in pursuit of an easy life in the sun. The menus are largely in English, the cold beer is cheap and the happy hours long - and even in December, the jungle of high-rise hotels and apartments by the Mediterranean is enveloped in bright sunshine. But keeping that dream alive requires money and jobs are scarce in a country which has suffered repeated economic crashes in the last decade. Now, expats who came to the Spanish coast to work in bars and building sites are being targeted by British agencies, amid a spiralling social care crisis in the UK. Care in Britain has reached a “tipping point” say regulators, with record levels of hospital bed-blocking and growing shortages of those prepared to take work looking after the most vulnerable. By 2020, a shortfall of more than 200,000 such workers is forecast in the UK. For some, that’s a business opportunity. An investigation by the Daily Telegraph reveals agencies are increasingly enticing expats to make a 3,000 mile round trip with the promise of lucrative earnings for short stints as a “jet-in” care worker. The staffing crisis means an expat who spends his time running a karaoke bar in Benidorm’s bustling Calle Gerona can find himself - within hours - administering intimate care to a dementia sufferer in a remote part of England. Hundreds are doing so each month from Spain alone, with subsidised flights, free UK travel and accommodation on top of pay. At least three firms now have recruiters based permanently in Spain, while many more bombard local English-language newspapers in resorts such as Benidorm and Malaga with advertisements promising unqualified new recruits around £1,700 a fortnight. One firm, Helping Hands, boasted on its colourful recruitment website that a “growing number” of expats were taking up the work, which it said could “fit around the Spanish lifestyle”. Consultus is another British agency with a recruiter permanently based near Benidorm. Its advertisements tell of a "huge increase" in the number of expats taking up the stints. Deda Allum, a former barmaid from the nearby village of Altea La Vella is one of those on their books. She sets out the appeal simply: “Work is money and money is work.” “If I like I can work back-to-back placements but I always give myself September off as it’s my favourite month in Spain.” While workers can chose to return to the same client, the work is heavily promoted on the basis that care workers do not have to be pinned down. Andrea Daddy, projects manager for Consultus, said: “Nearly all the people who do this work are transient”. Money is a major motivation, she suggests, with many reluctantly turning to care work to boost their incomes. “They are here because they haven’t got any money, where they are coming into a job they don’t want to do,” she said. The company, which charges a fee for placing self-employed live-in care workers, admitted it does not conduct physical health and safety inspections of its customers’ homes before sending in new workers. Because the carers are self-employed, their activity is not regulated by the Care Quality Commission (CQC) and workers are responsible for declaring earnings to the tax authorities. Many of the workers interviewed by The Daily Telegraph said they scheduled placements so they could return to see friends and family. Indeed, the flexibility of the work is one of the main attractions sold by the agencies touting it. But the drastic imbalance between demand and supply means that the deal is arguably tailored more to meet the needs of the care worker, than those of the vulnerable person, who will have string of strangers living in their home. Helping Hands is another firm for which the expat market is crucial. The British company, which has an annual turnover of roughly £65 million a year, said about 15 per cent of customers receiving live-in care are directly funded by local authorities such as Worcestershire County Council. It placed nearly 400 overseas care workers in UK private individuals’ homes in November alone, the vast majority of whom come from Spain. Those taking up the work come from all sorts of backgrounds - taxi drivers, builders, even in one case a former stock broker. But they have one thing in common: none of those who spoke to the Daily Telegraph ever imagined they would ever end up doing this critical and intimate work when they first moved out so Spain. It raises the obvious question: how suitable are they? As a live-in care worker they are charged with providing round-the-clock supervision, which will often involve feeding, cleaning and changing incontinence pads, as well as overseeing the taking of medication. Once in position, carers must handle any situation that arises and are reliant for advice on a supervisor, who may be hundreds of miles away. Despite many having no relevant experience or any professional training, their preparation for the role consists simply of a short induction course of a few days. Paul Young, 64, is a builder who moved to Spain from Yorkshire in the mid 1990s. please log in to view this image Paul Young moved to Benidorm in the 1990s CREDIT: JULIAN SIMMONDS He began working for Helping Hands two years ago, in a bid to supplement his income after the building market plummeted. He has since done stints in Surrey, Worcestershire and Chelsea in London. “It’s a bit daunting going into someone’s house when they’re a total stranger,” he said, speaking from his caravan just outside Benidorm. Back-up comes in the form of a mobile phone and a supervisor at head office, many miles away. “Sometimes it’s hard to get hold of them,” said Mr Young, whose most recent placement involved three weeks in the home of a dementia sufferer. “More often than not you get an answerphone,” he said, with a call back some time later. This winter, the gaps in Britain’s stretched social care services have seen some of the most extreme measures on record. Every NHS hospital has been ordered to cease most planned operations for a month until mid-January, in a desperate attempt to empty hospital beds, many of which are filled with pensioners there for want of help at home. Earlier this year regulators the Care Quality Commission warned of a “tipping point” in the sector, with too little care for those in need. Dr Sarah Wollaston, chairman of the Commons health select committee is one who believes “we can’t go on like this.” “We need to completely rethink the way we care for the vulnerable; we should be growing our own workforce, not relying on short-term stints from people flying in from overseas,” she said. Major charities last night expressed alarm at the rapid growth of an industry which is costing the taxpayer heavily at a time when resources are under pressure. Cuts to councils’ budgets mean the number of people in England receiving care paid for by the state has slumped by one quarter since 2009. Gail Scott-Spicer, chief executive of Carers Trust, said the booming businesses reflected the “depth of the social care crisis in the UK”. “It’s an expensive and temporary fix, which will still need to be resolved long after the workers have finished their two week stint, and when the pressure falls back on unpaid family members who are caring around the clock,” she said. And many are fearful of the impact of Brexit. Around 90,000 care workers in Britain are here from EU countries, and Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt is among those pressing Theresa Nay for assurances that those currently living here will be able to stay. But back in Spain, a generation who came to the Mediterranean with hopes of an easy life in the sun, are thinking about their own old age. David Johnston, 49, a former prison service worker who lives near Granada, signed up with Helping Hands just weeks ago for the promise of “extra cash”. He moved to Spain 11 years ago, not long before the country fell into two deep recessions. As he puts it: “I have a long time before my pension comes.” The state we’re in Britain’s elderly population is soaring. There are one million more people over the age of 65 than five years ago, and the number of those aged 80 and over has risen by almost 10 per cent. In many ways, it is a success story. Advances in modern medicine have seen continued increases in life expectancy in recent decades. But not all of these extra years are healthy. The demographic shift means an increasing number of extremely frail elderly people who are unable to carry out daily tasks unaided. In 2010, the Coalition government promised to protect the NHS from cuts. The Conservative administration has continued to ensure that the health service receives increases in funding, with an extra £8bn a year by 2020. However, austerity measures hit councils badly. It is they who run social services, and the budget for these has fallen by 11 per cent in five years, as the elderly population surged. As winter sets in, many are now fearful of the fragile state of services for the elderly. Amid record levels of bed-blocking in hospitals - with thousands of beds filled by elderly people for want of care at home - the NHS has taken unprecedented measures to try to avert a crisis. Hospital managers have been instructed to cease the vast majority of planned operations for a month, in a bid to bring down dangerously high levels of bed occupancy, and ensure care is there for those most in need. Ahead of Christmas, orders were issued to send home far more elderly patients home, if they were medically fit. But returning pensioners to their homes requires far more care to be available; from home-helps, to full-time live-in carers providing help with washing, dressing and feeding. And since 2009, the number of people receiving such state-funded help has fallen by one quarter. In recent months, Theresa May has been urged to tackle a “burning injustice” surrounding care for the elderly, amid warnings from care regulators that the sector was reaching a “tipping point”. Earlier this month ministers announced plans to allow local authorities to raise council tax by up to six per cent over two years, specifically to raise funds fore care for the elderly. While the hopes of extra cash were welcomed, many of those in the field are calling for far more fundamental reform to tackle a long-term crisis. And today’s investigation reflects a still greater malaise at the heart of social care; a reluctance among today’s workers to take such jobs. Social care sector roles now have turnover rates of more than 25 per cent a year, with more than 300,000 workers walking away from such work every year. It is an ageing workforce too – one in five of those in the field are approaching retirement age. The highest turnover rates of all are in the domiciliary care jobs which expats are now flying from Spain to fill, at vast expense. And around 90,000 care workers – around one in 10 of all such staff – are here from other EU countries, leading to concerns from those including the Health Secretary about what would happen if Brexit cuts off that supply.
Britain rightly rejected the EU because there is currently no suggestion that the 'democracy' problem you have highlighted is being, or likely to be, addressed. There is also no answer, apart from euro collapse, to the serious problems of depravation suffered by the Southern European countries in the Euro group. This has created great hostility between member nations, not a great advert for harmony. My wish is for a European free trade area with friendly participants who can share skills and cooperate, a bit like the old common market. Europe does not need a common agricultural policy which was designed just to appease the French. All it does is penalise third world countries from competing on a level playing field.
Can we agree something on the cutting and pasting of long articles that appear to be starting up again? I propose: 1) You always provide a link to the source 2) You only past a certain amount of words 3) Rather than expect the reader to read the whole article you precis and summarise with the point you wish to make any views?
So Bonkers Boris has been shooting from the lip again. This time against the EU for saying that people who drive a forklift truck on private land shouldn't need to get insured against injuring a third party. He also turned on the desire for quad bikes and mobility scooters to have insurance. 20 years ago I used forklifts in my business and I would not have considered using one without insurance. Indeed I would not have employed a driver for one who couldn't show that he had passed his training course. Each year a number of quad bike drivers die when they overturn, and there are reports of broken ankles and legs caused by out of control mobility scooters. Instead of coming out with such nonsense he might be better employed doing the job he is paid to do, instead of going round the world being an embarrassment to the country.
A positive BREXIT start to 2017 UK will create 400,000 jobs if it quits the customs union as part of Brexit talks, analysis finds 101 Comments please log in to view this image Michael Gove backs the Change Britain group CREDIT: PAUL GROVER FOR THE TELEGRAPH 3 JANUARY 2017 • 7:03AM Britain will become a “beacon of global free trade” and create nearly 400,000 new jobs if it quits the customs union as part of the Brexit negotiations, it has been suggested. An analysis by Change Britain, a group with the backing of Michael Gove, said that leaving the European Union’s customs union and striking trade agreements with just eight foreign countries will create hundreds of thousands of jobs in manufacturing and service industries. The customs union allows the free trade of goods between members, but members also have to apply the same tariffs to goods imported from outside the union. Watch | Theresa May's New Year message 04:06 Using European Commission figures on potential trade deals with countries such as India, China, Japan and Canada, the Change Britain analysis found Britain would get nearly £20 billion from extra exports and create 387,580 jobs. As a member of the EU’s customs union, Britain is not allowed to make its own free trade agreements with non-EU countries and must instead rely on the European Commission to do so. This is seen as a significant disadvantage after Brexit, as ministers are keen that Britain should be able to set the terms of its own deals. Boris Johnson, the Foreign Secretary, has said previously that the UK will “probably” have to leave the customs union, although his remarks were later played down by Downing Street. Mr Gove, the former justice secretary, said: “The UK has a prosperous future ahead of us if we leave the EU’s customs union and become a beacon of global free trade. “As we strike new trade deals with the growing economies of the 21st century, it will create hundreds of thousands of jobs right across the country, strengthening communities throughout the UK and ensuring that everyone feels the benefits of economic growth. “But in order to achieve this we must take back control of our trade policy. Only then can we realise the full potential of this great trading nation.” Lord Jones of Birmingham, a former trade minister under Gordon Brown, added: “The UK has a rich history as a great trading nation. It is therefore no surprise that a number of major economies have already expressed an interest in striking free trade agreements with us. “The only way we can make the most of these huge opportunities is to leave the EU’s customs union and take back control of our trade policy. This will create hundreds of thousands of new jobs in a range of industries right across the UK. “We can then take our place as one of the global champions of free trade.” A number of prominent Brexit campaigners are arguing for Britain to cut all ties with the EU. They want Britain to become an independent member of the World Trade Organisation, allowing it to negotiate its own trade deals across the world. Watch | Davis: We'll accept a transitional arrangement if necessary 01:19 Tim Martin, chairman and founder of the pub group JD Wetherspoon, on Monday told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme that it is a mistake to consider the upcoming Brexit negotiations the “most difficult” or “complex” ever faced by the United Kingdom. He said the discussions could be summed up in one sentence: “World Trade Organisation rules.” Mr Martin said that David Davis, the Brexit Secretary, has a straightforward decision to make between adopting WTO rules or signing a free trade agreement with the EU and remaining a part of the customs union. “All David Davis needs to say is, 'listen, guys, free trade or World Trade Organisation rules?’” he said. “I don’t mind. We’ll make more money under World Trade Organisation rules because we will benefit from the tariffs. “What you’ve got to be prepared to do is walk away – and it is perfectly clear that [David] Cameron’s big error, in being a naive sort of guy thinking we could do it through a PR stunt, was he wasn’t prepared to walk away.”
SH you may have missed or ignored my request prior to your last cut and paste..... I repeat here: Can we agree something on the cutting and pasting of long articles that appear to be starting up again? I propose: 1) You always provide a link to the source 2) You only past a certain amount of words 3) Rather than expect the reader to read the whole article you precis and summarise with the point you wish to make any views I would welcome some consideration of this please. Otherwise you will in effect stifle any discussion we could have together. Thank you
