You might invoke article 50 by the end of March, but as there is no plan you have no idea what will follow.
I think the plan is now fairly obvious. With May's red lines on sovereignty, border control and desire for bi-lateral free trade deals around the world means UK out of the single market and the customs union. This view is supported by leading industrialists such as Dyson and Lord Bamford, boss of JCB, Sir Mervyn King and Lord Digby Jones. The UK will rubbish the silly divorce financial demand then negotiate access to the EU. I don't expect any agreement until the very last knockings, EU style.
Your sense of humour is improving. There is a clear split in the government, the Supreme Court could make life difficult, yet you know the where things are leading. Right, I am sure most of us believe you.
'Negotiate access to the EU' - are you living in cloud cuckoo land ? You appear to have forgotten with this bulldog rhetoric that 1. We need them more than they need us. 2. We cannot negotiate any bi lateral deals until all the negotiations involved in Article 50 have been resolved - this point has already been confirmed by the Indians and the Australians. And lastly 3. Leaving the EU. will leave Britain with less sovereignty not more because we will need those bilateral deals more than our opposite partners. What sovereignty do you think would be left by following the 'special deal' relationship to America ?
It is much more logical to believe me than for you to believe the whole Brexit episode is just a bad dream. I don't think the anti-Brexit fairy godmother is coming to help you.
It is logical to believe that all we have had so far is a non binding referendum which had no more legal standing than an opinion poll. Since then nothing has happened other than hot air and empty promises. Did you think that we would have a referendum and then nothing would happen for 9 months ? Cameron told us it would happen the next day. Then we were told it could not be expected before September. Yet still we are just as much 'in' the EU. as we ever were. You would be well advised not to count chickens before they are hatched. It is also 'logical' to believe that the EU. referendum result his ripped Britain apart and that the wounds will take a lot of time to heal - if ever. If Britain can go against its own economic interests for the sake of some misguided idea of sovereignty then so can Scotland.
For Britain it makes perfect economic sense to ditch the failures of the EU. If you think the UK government is not treating the referendum as a defining moment then you are mistaken. The PM has told everyone that out means out. The UK failed to make adequate preparation for a Brexit decision to leave so it is understandable and sensible to now take sufficient time to establish the best negotiating position. As that poll showed the other day only 20% were against getting on with evoking article 50, most want action on leaving a.s.a.p. including many remainers. They are leaving the good ship 'remain' in droves.
A Christmas quiz for SH. Who said this? "If a democracy cannot change its mind, it ceases to be a democracy"
Surely you don't believe the democratic decision by the electorate can be overturned? I know it is pantomime season but surely that is stretching reality too far. I bet you watch Doctor Who from behind the sofa!!
A democratic decision cannot be overturned outright - but there is nothing undemocratic in asking for a second opinion. Governments do this regularly if election results have produced a mandate which is difficult to implement - judges also ask juries to 'reconsider their opinion', if the circumstances warrant it, and there is no hue and cry in either of these cases.
Try to concentrate on the realities of the subject rather than immaterial quotes. You are far too used to the EU running roughshod over democratic results in member nations. What you are suggesting is more akin to Mugabe's methods in Zimbabwe.
Can you give a previous example of an election or referendum in the UK being re-run when the sitting government has a workable majority? Neither the UK ruling party in government or Her Majesty's Opposition have asked for a re-run, in fact they have clearly voted to get on with the process. Who do you think is going to ask for a second opinion?
You mean that you will get into bed with Trump and end up with a second hand TTIP. after which there would be precious little democracy left on the island. Wait until Wall Mart or any other multi national can take Britain to court for trying to exercise its democratic rights - because the EU. has been helping to protect us against possibilities like this. Wait until Britain is turned into an off shore fracking island, and a dumping ground for gene manipulated American rubbish and then talk to us about democracy.
By the way SH. there has recently been a study of comparative democracies in the World which places Britain as being one of the most undemocratic countries in Europe. It lists things like transparency, impartiality of the media, democratic accountability, a voting system which really translates into proportional representation, political participation between elections, whether the social origins of parliament are really representative of the populace, personal privacy, access to information, etc. you know, all those things which make up so called democracy - anyway Britain ranks as number 48 in all this, Worldwide. Lower than Poland or Hungary. It appears that Britain, free of its ties to the other democracies of Europe - and all their 'inconvenient' environmental rules, human rights rules, democratic institutions etc. will be free to go further down the road to elitism and despotism.
