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  1. Treble

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    Firstly because the refs are an easy scapegoat. Secondly because the pundits will always have double standards when it comes to English players (until that is, they've built an English player up enough to pull them down) If that was Lukaku, or Costa, or Zlatan, I doubt we'd have had the same furore over it.
     
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    I've already said this is subjective. I'm not arguing the challenge itself. I've made the point to Mick that after all the media attention that ref, and those two footed challenges had got, it was pretty stupid for any player in the prem to give any ref the decision to make. To give it to the same ref, arguably, was even more stupid. Whether technically he was right or wrong is besides the point. Why put yourself and the ref in that position?

    I agree with the article Mick has posted, but it's all a bit one sided imo. Blame the ref and be done with it. What if the ref had been dropped for the weekend games and another ref had sent Vardy off because two footed challenges were in the limelight?
     
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  3. BuzzardFoxMick

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    Easy thing to say was he wise , in the cold light of day ........ I would think that during the high octane adrenaline pumping throws of a premier league game, I would think the last thing going through Vardy's mind would be Craig Pawson's ability to officiate rationally ?
    Also given the fact he was pushed by Johnson jus before, was influential in Vards balance in making the tackle !
     
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    So basically its a red card if you see that happen in front of you. You broke it down like you grew up watching Sky Sports and pundits playing with knobs and buttons. To the naked eye, real time, you are off when you make yourself airborne studs up.
     
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  5. BuzzardFoxMick

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    The article was written by an ex fellow ref !
     
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  6. Skylarker

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    Vardy wanted Xmas off, no biggie lads.
     
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  7. BuzzardFoxMick

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    I expect it to be appealed with a successful outcome !
    Pawson even wrongly booked Huth when the perpetrator was Andy King ffs !
     
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    Why should Vardy alter his decision making based on a game he wasn't involved in?

    If that's how referees act then there needs to be a serious shake up because that is incompetence in the extreme.
     
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    He also booked Eric Pieters for a foul that Bruno Martins Indi committed.

    He's completely incompetent.
     
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  10. Treble

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    Cold light of day? Not really. Considering the amount of press it was getting, I would imagine every manager SHOULD have been drawing attention to it with their players. Certainly Ranieri whould've been considering it was the same ref!! <doh> Vardy doesn't need anything going through his mind does he, except don't go in with two feet off the floor today against this chap because he might just give a red card for it. It's hardly Mastermind is it?
     
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    "It's on, mate. Tell the lads. Got the days off work, Christmas and New Years. Gonna be a big one".

     
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    Decision making? You mean not to go in two feet off the ground? Yes.

    How has the ref acted? You seem to be repeating the same thing over and over again, which I've already said is subjective. As far as the ref was concerned, he made the right decision. He may be right or wrong in our minds, but Vardy was equally culpible in the decision the ref had to make.
     
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    If this was Ulloa no-one would bat an eyelid.
     
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    At the end of the day, goal line technology has resolved one main issue in football but in other areas such as penalties, offsides and fouls as per this one, it is still open to mistakes by refs. The answer is simple, video ref. I wouldn't have it stopping the match for ages like in rugby but a ref could be at a screen and give a decision to the main ref in his ear in seconds without barely any disruption. It's the only way to cut out inept decisions that come from human nature
     
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    It's my opinion (and I imagine the opinion of the FA) that the referee got the decision wrong so why would I think that Vardy is culpable? He's made a perfectly legitimate and legal tackle in my opinion.
     
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    If it was ulloa it wouldn't have been a red card as refs have made a judgement of Vardy which goes before him
     
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    Well that remains to be seen. But whether that is proved to be the case it won't help Leicester City in the result against Stoke, which leads me back to my original post to Mick.
     
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    :) .. a thread that reached its' inevitable conclusion tonight ...

    January 2016 Forrest Chump predicts the demise of Leicester City FC ...

    December 2016 Leicester CityFC voted BBC team of the year by the British people for the phenomenal achievement of winning the EPL without throwing obscene amounts of money at it ..

    The bitters and the entitles eat your hearts out ...

    Finally congratulations to HIAG for finally winning something...the biggest fcuk-up egg on face thread of all time ... let's hope his little bum chums can provide adequate succour for this monumental rinsing ...absolutely hilarious... :)
     
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    I understand what you're saying, but I doubt that Vardy is going to consider, or maybe even know, that it's the same ref who allowed Rojo to escape worse challenges. I suppose you could argue that the coaches could have made their players aware of something like that beforehand.

    There's also the issue of the push he got from behind. Nevertheless, he did have both feet off the ground, so technically Pawson was correct. However, you can understand if both the player and the club feel a little aggrieved at the lack of refereeing consistency.
     
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    Yeh I think those are all fair points. The problem I'm trying to remind everyone is that the ref has a difficult job, sees an incident and makes a decision. The fact he may get the decision right or wrong isn't black and white just because WE all have the benefit of repeats and slow-motion analysis. It's bound to be subjective, even for the ref and especially in real time, so therefore it's not a precise art or skill. If you're a manager or player in particular, you need to take some responsibility for putting the ref in a position where he has to make the decision; therefore the potential for him to decide against you is always there. It's like a penalty decision where we've all said at some point in our lives "I've seen those given".

    I also stand by my other point that IF it was Costa, Giroud, Lukaku or Ibrah, we wouldn't have this pundits' and press furore over the incident. In fact, I bet some would be siding with the ref. I'm not speaking against Vardy in particular, but there is a double standard by our sports media tbh.
     
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