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Short the lying 2 faced bastard

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  1. Makemstine Roger

    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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    Sunderland manager David Moyes: I was misled over January transfer cash and sale of the club
    • Sunderland will have no cash to spend in January as they try to avoid relegation
    • David Moyes says he was unaware that owner Ellis Short planned to sell club
    • He would have thought twice about taking on Sunderland, had he known issues
    • Jan Kirchhoff will be sidelined for at least two months to worsen the situation


    David Moyes says he would have thought twice about taking the Sunderland job had he known there would be no money to spend next month and that owner Ellis Short wanted to sell the club.

    The former Manchester United manager, who took over at the Stadium of Light in late July, has revealed American billionaire Short did not inform him of his intention to sell.

    Moyes also claimed promises about new year investment have been broken, leaving him no means of bringing in players to cover a spate of serious injuries.

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    Sunderland manager David Moyes says he was not aware the club was set to be sold

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    Moyes has been told he will have no cash to bring players in during the January window

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    Craig Hope broke the news in Wednesday's Sportsmai
    When he arrived, Moyes repeatedly spoke of 'guarantees' made by Short with regard to improving the Sunderland squad.

    But the owner has since told his manager that cash will not be available next month — and Moyes isn't happy.

    'Sunderland always had an appeal to me, but if I had known about the situation I would have needed to look at it in a different way,' he said.

    'I would have had to think a lot more about it, because at the end of the day I want to manage in the Premier League.

    'I did not know the club could be going up for sale, I was not made aware of that before. I didn't see us having no money (in January).
    Even in the summer I knew what we were spending was small in comparison — and I said that to the owner.

    'But I hoped it would be a short period and we would then have the next period (January) to get things done. That has shown itself not to be the case.


    'I'm disappointed that I will not be able to do some work in January and try and build on what we've done.'

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    Ellis Short is set to sell Sunderland and as a buyer is sought funds will not be available

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    Moyes cannot understand relegation-threatened Sunderland's reluctance to spend

    Moyes was dealt another blow on Friday with news that midfielder Jan Kirchhoff will be sidelined for at least two months with a torn cartilage, joining long-term absentees Duncan Watmore, Lee Cattermole, Paddy McNair and Lynden Gooch on the sidelines.

    That being the case, he cannot understand the reluctance to spend, especially given that the club's top-flight status will depend on it.

    'After the Kirchhoff injury I feel like saying, 'Come on, wait a minute',' he said.

    'The way the money levels have gone in the Premier League, if you want to be there then you need a bit of help. I would hope that we can find a way of giving us a chance of having a go at it.'

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    Black Cats star Jan Kirchhoff is sidelined for at least two months with a torn cartilage

    Moyes, whose bottom-placed team entertain Watford on Saturday afternoon, would have every right to quit given developments of the past week, during which chief executive Martin Bain has revealed that Short is open to offers for the club and that transfer funds are 'very, very limited'.

    But Moyes said: 'I have not been tempted to walk because I saw some steel from the players and a belief in what they are doing.

    'So I have thought to myself, 'I came here to do a job and the first job is to keep us up'. Other managers have done it and I have to as well — but my task might be slightly harder. After that I always said the bigger job was to build the club up.

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    Sunderland players show their dejection during Wednesday night's home defeat by Chelsea

    'I find that (Short wanting to sell) difficult because I was saying I have come here to improve the club.

    'So there is a frustration with it but I am going to stand up, stick my chest out and get on with it. I have dealt with it in my head and I'm going to fight for it and I expect everyone else at the club to do the same.

    'I have a lot of respect for the chief executive who was big and brave enough to say it how it is to the supporters and everyone here.

    'So if we can get everyone pulling together and say, 'Come on, you're in it now, this is what we've got', sometimes that can galvanise you as well. That's what we have to try and do.'

    cocksucking yank bastard, ****ing my club, hope he gets his and goes bankrupt ,after he sells of course
     
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  2. Jack TheLad

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    Makemstine Roger Well-Known Member

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  4. Billy Death

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    Doesn't look good does it?
    I can see a parting of ways here.
     
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  5. Bexinio

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    If Moyes walks would people accept Big sam back?
     
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    If Moyes walks because of this just as we're doing alright I'm going to have to go and punch something.
     
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  7. Billy Death

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    Conflict between manager & chairman is never healthy.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

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    Everything points to your team just giving up and imploding, but they're not, they look like they're bang up for it and kudos to Moyes for that.
     
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    The way I understood it, it wasn't that Short was unwilling to spend, it was that we couldn't spend because of FFP rules. If that's the case then Moyes walking would just be a tantrum rather than a stand against broken promises.
     
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    And that seems to scare the **** out of him.
    Doesn't seem to bother Man city much does it?
     
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    Isn't it something to do with what income comes from where though? So Man City can spend more than us before breaking FFP rules. That's not making excuses for Short mind, if he'd spent better we wouldn't be in this situation.
     
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    With the non-signing of MVilla maybe we are looking at two or more reasonable wage signings to help us limp through the season. Also, Crouch seems to fit that bill.

    I could be way off here, but I am beginning to see a tenuous link between funding/willingness/ability to spend connected to us parting with our Commercial Director recently. If there are serious bidders than maybe the books have to be scrutinised closely and, as already expressed on here, we are not generating much income from outside the football itself.

    Who knows, we may be closer than we think to a new owner!
     
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    During the commentary on today's match it was mentioned that Sanchez would have gone to City had it not been for FFP. What they have though is the ability to sell to buy. Maybe there is more to the FFP than any of us know about.
     
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    Really, if Moyes goes because of this Allardyce wouldn’t even contemplate returning. He was thinking of walking before the England job because of ‘Lack of Funds’. Short has to f**k off!!!!!
     
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    Yeh and we will weather the storm and come through fighting again
     
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    Maybe, maybe not. With recent form I certainly have a great chance of survival, with Short not wanting to spend any more money this can only mean that he has a buyer lined up. I mean it’s ridiculous not to spend at least 10m or so for the sake of survival. Feel sorry for Moyes been led down the garden path.
     
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    News on the street bracwell gone
    Take over imminent
     
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    SAFC need someone like Sheikh Mansour to invest in the team to achieve success on the pitch which should lead to bettter commercial success off it.
    Mansour finally got City to return a profit after investing £1.23 Billion since 2008.

    Comparing finances there is a massive gulf between the successful top clubs and those in the rest of the Premier League.
    Manchester City earn £20.5m profit on income of £392m in 2015-16 season
    -Wages for players and staff were approximately £196m, 50% of income

    Sunderland made a loss of £25m on income of £101m
    -Wages for players and staff were approximately £77m, 76% of income.

    This has been discussed many times and all the info is here:
    http://rokerreport.sbnation.com/2016/12/6/13842152/what-s-going-on-with-sunderlands-finances



     
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  19. Makemstine Roger

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    ffp rules were a godsend to Short so he didnt have to spend, his appointments his mistakes
     
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    Make that rumours on social media more like. Beware somebody stirring the pot.
     
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