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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by ChilcoSaint, Feb 23, 2016.

  1. ImpSaint

    ImpSaint Well-Known Member

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    I'm not going to argue over the lyrics of the song or what order the verses are. physical and masculine are in there but there is "I'm not the world's most passionate guy."

    **according to the interweb searches.
     
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  2. ImpSaint

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    On the subject of Russia, that also made Soros his money!!!


    I was listening to Rush hemispheres today and the song circumstances was very "on topic."

    Now I've gained some understanding
    Of the only world that we see
    Things that I once dreamed of
    Have become reality.

    These walls that still surround me
    Still contain the same old me
    Just one more who's searching for
    The world that ought to be.

    All the same
    We take our chances
    Laughed at by time
    Tricked by circumstances

    Plus ca change
    Plus c'est la meme chose
    The more that things change
    The more they stay the same.


    Meanwhile I still hope.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Agreed, but I think what you were searching for in your original quote from the song was: "I'm not dumb but I don't understand..."
     
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  4. ImpSaint

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    Lol. maybe ;)

    Co-incidence. Lola is on BBC4 at the moment. definitely said passionate guy.
     
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  5. Schrodinger's Cat

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    2nd verse is passionate
     
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  6. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    I've read pages now - and half is from ImpSaint - and it's all this is bad, that is bad - what's the plan ImpSaint? who should we vote for? and why?
     
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  7. ImpSaint

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    I have no idea. I'm just the standard moaner on a keyboard. I have no solutions nor any kind of anger that would get me marching on the streets. I just vote when a vote is available and hope for the best like most of us do.
     
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  8. Beef

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    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/11...act_backdoors/

    Among the many unpleasant things in the Investigatory Powers Act that was officially signed into law this week, one that has not gained as much attention is the apparent ability for the UK government to undermine encryption and demand surveillance backdoors.

    As the bill was passing through Parliament, several organizations noted their alarm at section 217 which obliged ISPs, telcos and other communications providers to let the government know in advance of any new products and services being deployed and allow the government to demand "technical" changes to software and systems.

    As per the final wording of the law, comms providers on the receiving end of a "technical capacity notice" will be obliged to do various things on demand for government snoops – such as disclosing details of any system upgrades and removing "electronic protection" on encrypted communications.
     
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    If you get this reference, give yourself a cookie.
     
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  10. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    I get it, just not sure I agree with it. Not a fan of May but it could be any modern day politician's picture up there. Unless that's what her picture represents.
     
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  11. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    Great thread btw. Good range of varied opinions without the abuse. Don't know many ppl from Southampton but the rest of us could learn a thing or two from here <ok>
     
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    The two previous heads of the United States Department of Energy (which handles a tonne of exceedingly important stuff that in no way involves oil and gas production, despite the general conception that it regulates oil and gas production; little things like maintaining America's nuclear stockpile, fostering the Human Genome Project, research into technological advances in energy production, etc): a Nobel-winning particle physicist, followed by a world-class theoretical physicist with vast experience running large technical programs.

    The rumoured next head of the DOE: the former governor of Texas who failed organic chemistry in college and got Cs and Ds in his other physics/chemistry courses, and whose presidential bid unraveled in 2012 because he forgot the Department of Energy.

    But down with the elites and all.
     
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    People spend a lot of time getting angry with successive governments about economic policy, social policy, perceived lies to the electorate etc... But the changes brought about that genuinely effect our freedoms, privacy and rights seem to go almost unnoticed. I think it's a massive shame that Theresa May has managed to get through the changes that the lib dems just about managed to stop in regards to the Internet and communication, without any kind of public outcry.

    We stand against social injustices yet fail to oppose moves by the government that genuinely affect our rights and freedoms as citizens.
     
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    Whatever.

    WASHINGTON — President-elect Donald J. Trump plans to name the former Texas governor Rick Perry as his secretary of energy.

    The selection of Mr. Perry to lead the energy agency would offer a rich paradox: During a televised debate in 2011, when he was seeking the Republican nomination, Mr. Perry intended to list the Department of Energy among agencies he wanted to eliminate, but he could not remember its name.

    While Texas is rich in energy resources and Mr. Perry is an enthusiastic advocate of extracting them, it is not clear how that experience would translate into leading what is also a major national security agency. Despite its name, the Department of Energy plays the leading role in designing nuclear weapons and in ensuring the safety and reliability of the nation’s aging nuclear arsenal through a constellation of scientific laboratories.

    About 60 percent of the Energy Department’s budget is devoted to managing the National Nuclear Security Administration, which defines its mission as enhancing national security through the military application of nuclear science.
     
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  15. ImpSaint

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    Because the current crop of self-proclaimed liberals are nothing of the sort and do not bat an eyelid at picking and choosing which aspects of Liberalism they fit into whatever "ism" they are following. I don't think anyone knows what "ism" all these parties actually are following which is why so many people blur lines between all the differences and just throw out comments like "Tory scum" when the differences between Tories and non Tories are almost non existent.

    Personally I'm not overly bothered by what is proclaimed as "snooping." I have nothing to hide and if it keeps us safe then it is beneficial. If what happens is they start to use that information against us for other things other than security of the state then of course I will be as much against it as anyone else.
     
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    The Believer
    How Stephen Miller went from obscure Capitol Hill staffer to Donald Trump’s warm-up act—and resident ideologue.




    “Stephen played a central and wide-ranging role in our primary and general election campaign,” Trump said in a statement. “He is deeply committed to the America First agenda, and understands the policies and actions necessary to put that agenda into effect.”

    Miller has served as Trump’s top policy adviser since January 2016. Miller previously worked for Sen. Jeff Sessions, another early Trump supporter and Trump’s pick for Attorney General.



    Miller also cuts a deeply unsettling figure, even to many in his own party. His nine-year career working for some of the most politically fringe figures on the Hill—he also worked for Michele Bachmann and helped David Brat in his primary defeat of Eric Cantor—was preceded by a trail of writings and provocations that go all the way back to high school, one that has raised the eyebrows of even conservative Republicans.
    There is something eerily vintage about Miller’s stump speeches. The combination of their substance—vilifying immigrants as killers, the promise of nativist glory days ahead—and their delivery with a calm face around a loud, droning mouth, slicked-back hair and sharp suit, floridly invoking powerful cabals against the people: All of it harks back to an earlier time. It’s as if the video should be in black and white, and the microphone in front of Miller an antique, metallic affair. This is an image Miller assiduously cultivates, smoking like a chimney and dressing in suits that earned him the nickname “Mad Men” on the Hill. “You almost want to put him in a previous era,” says Marcus Peacock, who worked with Miller on the Senate Budget Committee.


    He recently accused Neera Tanden, an outside adviser for the Clinton campaign, of being a fake feminist for not opposing Muslim immigration into the U.S. even though Muslims, according to Miller, bring with them female genital mutilation. “You want to talk about women’s issues?” he hectored. “Here’s something we should be talking about!”....
    How did Stephen Miller come to occupy such an extreme position on immigration? Strangely, it was his experience coming of age in a liberal Jewish family in liberal Santa Monica, the Berkeley of Southern California. “I think it was growing up in California, he saw the role that mass migration played turning a red state blue,” says one former Senate colleague. “He was fearful that that would happen to the rest of the country.”

    In a column called “Political Correctness Out of Control,” he laid out a litany of complaints against his high school’s “liberal indoctrination.” “I noticed a number of students lacked basic English skills,” he wrote, and complained that the school making announcements in Spanish and English holds the Hispanic students back. He took issue with the school making condoms available—“Legally speaking, sex between minors is statutory rape. Not to mention 14-year-olds are a little young to be having sex regardless of the law.” Worse, the school encouraged students to embrace their homosexuality. “And just in case your son or daughter decides at their tender age that they are gay, we have a club on campus that will gladly help foster their homosexuality,” he wrote. “Do they notify parents if their teenagers have chosen an alternate lifestyle? Of course not.” The way the school taught American history, focusing too much on the bad and not enough on the heroic, also insulted Miller’s patriotism. Should American soldiers have not killed Indians or anyone else? Miller asked, rhetorically. “Or, better yet, we could have lived with the Indians, learning how to finger paint and make tepees, excusing their scalping of frontiersmen as part of their culture,” Miller griped.
     
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    http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entr...b0acb6e4b80480

    A Tory MP spoke for an hour and 20 minutes in the House of Commons on Friday in an attempt to block a bill on violence against women.

    In a lengthy speech, Philip Davies said the bid to protect women from domestic abuse was “sexist against men”, “political correctness”, and “virtue signalling”, in an apparent effort to make the bill run out of time.

    Ministers were debating whether to ratify the Istanbul Convention, which would increase support for victims of domestic violence.

    But Davies, who has long campaigned against feminism, used up time in the chamber by reading out details of individual cases of domestic violence perpetrated by women, including comments by judges.

    Labour MP Thangam Debbonaire, following Davies, said “there’s 78 minutes I’ll never get back”.

    In the extended speech Davies suggested sending people to prison for longer to prevent domestic violence, and said he wanted to make November 25th, which is the international day for elimination of violence against women, apply to victims of both sexes.

    But despite the stunt MPs voted the bill through with 135 votes to 2. It now moves on to the committee stage.

    The anti-feminist MP has successfully filibustered legislation in the past, including one bill to stop rogue landlords evicting tenants asking for basic repairs, one to regulate payday lenders and a third to force councils to provide support to those who care for the disabled.

    The incident follows an announcement on Tuesday that Davies had been appointed to a Parliamentary committee responsible for scrutinising the Government on women’s issues.
     
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