The EU debate - Part III

So who will offer the best Brexit deal then?

 

If by stalling tactics, you really mean ensuring that our parliamentary democracy is upheld, then maybe you should be aiming that accusation at the Govt, who could have put this to the vote months ago and saved themselves the trouble. They've wasted yet more time by appealing the High Court's ruling.

The demands are that Parliament is consulted on the Govt's aims for Brexit, which is completely correct, as so far all we've had is contradiction from within their ranks and "Brexit means Brexit". May and her cronies have no mandate whatsoever on what Brexit should actually look like, and therefore can't merely deliver what they like.

 

No one will offer it. It's up to May and her team to negotiate it. Unless the EU just cave in to all our demands she has to have an idea of what the priority is. What that should be is debatable. I'd say the economy, you may say border control/immigration.

 

Why do say that about immigration? My view has been clear, that unlike the remainers, I want the borders to be open equally to all people, not just the favoured 7%.

 

Which ignores the fact that there are other parties involved in the negotiations. It's a stalling tactic.

 

So you'd be up for letting more refugees in from Syria then? Good man.

 

As long as they are what we need as a nation, why not, why limit it to fodder from the EU when we can get quality skilled people from the rest of the world.

 

Yes, I appreciate that you want it to be equally difficult for everyone. In spite of that you say we should let May get on with it but only criticise one group.

 

There's nothing to stop us incentivising skilled people to come here.

 

Thats the problem, we have to accept EU people, so that limits who else we can allow in, as we dont have the infrastructure to huge numbers that we have now

 

If they're all unskilled, as you're implying, we still need the skilled people for the skilled roles. It's a myth that we just hit a number for immigrants in a year and suddenly a highly skilled person can't get in. Look at football for an exceptionally basic example.

 

I understand what you are saying, but we get far to many unskilled EU people coming here, stop them and only allow skilled people in and everyone would be happy

 

The annoying thing about this is that the poor buy it and accept it.
Rich bankers **** up the economy? The solution is to cut everything, sell it all of to rich bankers and cut their tax bills.

 

Who would do the unskilled jobs? There aren't enough exisiting unemployed people and they aren't all going to be in the right locations.

 

Plenty of unemployed lazy sods that must be forced to work, benefits must be made harder to get for the lazy gits. That will do for a start, then when that is exhausted, you can allow unskilled people in, where needed on a limited work visa.

 

Yep. I've no problem with that. Unlike some arseholes that delighted in their misfortune.

As long as the system is applied fairly.

 

Remember that Daily Mail story that Pete posted the other day about isolate Muslims?


Oh look, it's bullshit. What a shock.
They've retracted it with a tiny little section in the paper, which many people won't even see.
The same story is still on The Express and The Sun's websites, too.

 

I'm glad you agree that it has been made difficult for 93% of the world in order to benefit the fortunate 7% in the EU.

Hopefully we can correct this divisivness once we're free of the shackles.

 

The govt could do more to force the likes of Stan the snide to get off his arse and get a job for a start.

Or swap him for an immigrant with a work ethic.

 

What percentage of unemployed people are lazy sods that are avoiding work?