The Tottenham Hotspur "Spiral" Watch

I'll try to be clearer in the future.....

 

It was clear the first time, just incorrect

 

So @Hoddle Is A God did Spurs draw Arsenal in the next round of the europey pot ?

 

Gent lol


Who the **** are they? Are they professional?

 

Hi PS
Can you clarify the mode position for Arsenal again as you re-stated it's 1st, is that correct?
what is Arsenal's average position for the same period. Thanks.

Like me you clearly understand maths and that mode and average can give entirely different answers.
For example there are 20 possible end positions in PL and a team could over a 20 year period, be 1st 3 times and end up in all the other places 17 times, with some doubling up of positions. Yet the mode is 1 but the average is far far lower

 

That's why the average gives a more accurate picture

 

Back on topic back to back defeats for Poncetto's hapless bunch now play the mighty g-hent (as pronounced) in Spursday ur Ropey cup football. Happy days.

 

Using the Mean is often the best if the data is approx normal (in the maths sense) but the Mode can be a better average if the data has an odd shape. Especially if you have discrete numbers like finishing positions and you want to place a bet on where a club is likely to finish (which is a similar point to where this discussion started). Say over ten years Chelsea finished first three times, second four times, third once and 17th twice. The mean is about fifth and the mode is second. If you could get equal odds for them finishing second or fifth the next season I reckon second would be a much better bet.

Arsenal's mode over all time is 1st, median is 6th and mean 8.7. The mean is dragged down by your early years where you basically didn't trouble the scorers before your first appearance as champions in the 30s and a bit by the awful period between your 50s and 70s titles.
Spurs have 3rd as the mode, 10th as the median and 12.2 as the mean (again dragged down by the early years).

Looking at the data is a big reminder of how open the league used to be: Three of Arsenal's titles came after bottom half finishes the previous season and Spurs won the league the season after being promoted.

 

2 3 4 4 3 4 3 4 3 4 4 2 1 2 1 2 2 2 1 3

Distribution :

3 1
6 2
5 3
6 4

And mean, median, mode : 3 (2.7) , 3, 2 | 4

 

You are not well travelled in Europe and it shows.

 

I went to Liverpool a couple of months ago i'll have you know.

 

Which back-to-back defeats? Or are you predicting we will lose on Wednesday?

 

You're not here for the football are you! I didn't count Swansea because they're not a team in the grand scheme of things.

 

Or to put it another way, you ****ed up!

 

Fixed.

 

Must be my screen ... I've read it 3 times and put it through Google translate which comes back with ..

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... which is, rather bizarrely, very similar to what I kept getting when reading it

 

If you're going to try and Wum, at least try to get your facts straight, you dick. Our previous premiership game was against Swansea - we won 5-0. And our last game before yesterday was against CSKA - we won that 3-1.

 

Yeah but we're talking about results worth knowing about.

You drew against us then lost to Chelsea and United.

 

... not to mention 3 out of 6 games in the UCL group stage ... oops, I just mentioned it ... naughty me

 

Ignore the drunken closet Spaniard! He doesn't have the ability to read the posts, just picks one and falls over soppy old sod