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Woodyer......

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by saintKlopp, May 25, 2017.

  1. Zanjinho

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    FFS Why can't people read on this forum anymore? <doh>

    He was a very good player, but he wasn't exactly versatile. The injuries prove that since he wasn't half the player once the pace had gone.

    He had very limited abilities and drummed up a false impression that he was a trickster that could beat players because he could 'knock it and run'.

    Bit like Agger had a reputation for being able to hit a long shot after scoring one shortly after arriving at Liverpool. I don't think he got another?
     
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    Aka; Heskey flicked it into space and he chased it

    Theo would have appeared as a much better footballer in Houllier's team too #allaboutthepace
     
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  3. Prince Knut

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    So the Michael Owen of 1998 -2004 was a one-trick pony who based his reputation on one goal? I think ****ing not.
     
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    I think there were 2 main reasons why Fowler was adored and Owen wasn't. Firstly because it felt to most as if Owen loved playing for England as much as Liverpool, if not that little bit more, while Fowler, much like Carra, seemed pretty indifferent to England. Also I'm guessing the fans on the Kop felt Fowler was someone they could relate to, a bit of a cheeky chappy from Toxteth. Owen by comparison was not very easy to relate to, as proven by his lack of rapport with the working class fan bases of Newcastle & Liverpool.
     
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    No worries, think I'll leave it there as we are simply not going to agree with each other on this <ok> <hug>
     
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    Again, twisting of words <laugh>

    He scored some very good goals and worked very hard on scoring more worth his left and head but it was blatantly obvious he wanted that right foot (why not, it was bloody good!).

    If he was such a great all round player, why did his career stall at he suffered serious injuries resulting in a loss of pace?

    IMO, if a 17yr Michael Owen doesn't have pace, none of us ever hear of him. He probably never makes it as a professional footballer #allaboutthepace
     
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    Yeah, I was going to end the conversation myself if you responded anyway s I know I'm different to most and in a very small minority with the "hate" mentality I have.


    PS... think I've started another one on Michael Owen now though <laugh>
     
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    Pace AND a scoring record at every level of football and age group he'd played in.
     
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    And where did I say he couldn't score?


    Fowler was the opposite; could do most things but severely lacked pace.

    What a player we'd have had if we'd been able to combine the best attributes from Fowler & Owen
     
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    if a 17yr Michael Owen doesn't have pace, none of us ever hear of him. He probably never makes it as a professional footballer #allaboutthepace
     
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    You just like being a contrarian <laugh>
     
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    I agreed with every word he said until Owen was dragged into the discussion (by me, I must admit). :emoticon-0138-think
     
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    I didn't!
     
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    And that translates as couldn't score in your book does it?

    If he lacks pace, he doesn't get a fraction of the chances he scored with. Doesn't mean he can't shoot, it means he doesn't get the chance to!
     
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    True <laugh>
     
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    I personally don't know any Liverpool fan who would wish utd luck in any competition, ever. Ironically it's some of the 'modern day fans' who seems to do it because they aren't aware or care about the fierce rivalry.

    With regard to G in particular he's just about the fairest-minded person I've encountered on here so it doesn't surprise me that he would do it and shouldn't be castigated for it... imo.
     
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    You're just failing to read what I put. Never doubted the quality he provided
     
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    When Owen said the winner he scored in the manc derby was the best goal of is career - he sealed his fate with Liverpool fans. Giving him an ambassadorial role was bizarre.
     
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    **** 'im.

    :bandit:
     
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    oh FFS DD did you have to dredge that bloody game up
    i've been trying to forget it for nigh on 15 years now and don't think i will ever forgive Houllier for his tactics that season which ruined a brilliant start to the season.
     
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