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Tyrone Mings stamp on Zlatan Ibrahimovic

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  1. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    He should be getting retrospective ban from the FA, What he did could've caused a lot of damage to Zlatan Ibrahimovic, I agree that We should've had 10 men as well but apparently Zlatan Ibrahimovic could be getting a 3 match ban even though he was booked.
     
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  2. Chief

    Chief Northern Simpleton
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    Mings got what he deserved. ****.

    Both will/should get a ban of at least three games.
     
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  3. glazerfodder

    glazerfodder Well-Known Member

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    I'm sure the league can only take further action if the match official did not see the incident and include it in their match report. FFS - the ref spoke to Ibra and Rooney for three or four minutes ..................... if he wasn't discussing the incident in detail, what on earth were they talking about. Different thing for Mings, the ref didn't see that at all as his view was obstructed -

    According to the Football Association rule book, disciplinary chiefs will be able to consider retrospective action in the two following situations -

    * firstly, for acts of violent conduct that occur secondarily to a challenge for the ball;

    * secondly, in off-the-ball incidents where one or more match official did see the incident but their view was such that none of them had the opportunity to make a decision on an act of misconduct that took place.

    In the first case the match officials may not have seen anything at all so it will not be included in the match report - but an incident may subsequently flagged up by television coverage and the FA can initiate action.
    In the second case, the referee or one of the linesman may have got a partial view of something but they were not certain as to exactly what had happened. In those circumstances they may include a reference to an incident in their report and request a review.
    FA Director of Governance Darren Bailey explained the changes. “This enables The FA to consider acts of violent conduct, like an elbow or a stamp, which have occurred after a challenge for the ball or coming together of players.
    “It is sometimes difficult for officials to see such incidents, as they are often concentrating solely on the challenge for possession of the ball, and we are mindful of this.
     
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  4. Swarbs

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    Second case doesn't apply for Ibra at all, as it wasn't an off the ball incident. Hard to argue the first one applies either, as the elbow occurred during the challenge for the ball, so it wasn't 'secondarily' to the challenge. Wasn't like a Fellaini type one where the ball is at feet and the elbow flies in anyway.

    Of course the FA will probably just choose to change the rules again now it's a Utd player in trouble and the usual talking heads are calling for a ban.
     
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  5. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    It's hilarious ALL the focus is on Zlatan's elbow and people are even daring to question the intention of Mings stamp. Could you imagine if it had been the other way around??? How many pundits, commentators and newspaper journo's would be focusing on an elbow by Mings if it had been Zlatan doing the foot stamp? Could you imagine the back pages, the pictures and the headlines of Zlatan stamping??

    It's funny that every week there's something being picked away at against United but totally being ignored when it comes to other players and sides. I'm not even sure whether it's anti-United or anti-Mourinho anymore tbh.
     
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    Dangerous and cowardly to stamp on someone s head whilst he's on the ground. Mings deserve at least 4 matches. Unfortunately Zlatan will get 3 matches.
     
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  7. Matth_2014

    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    Both players should find out today if they're being charged by the FA.
     
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  8. Sir Tennisball

    Sir Tennisball Well-Known Member

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    Both should have got red cards, so should be getting 3 match bans.

    Zlatan's yellow was for dissent after the penalty awarded to Bournemouth, so not related to the elbow incident at all.
     
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  9. BigFox

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    Zlaten will get 3 games at least - will mean he'll miss Chelsea in the FA cup and Boro + WBA in Premier League.

    Will be interesting who starts up front for you then - obvious choice would be Rooney but I don't think Mouriniho sees him as a #9 any more and doesn't seem to want to play Rashford there.
     
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    Got to be Rashford.

    Give him a run as No.9, he is the future in that position.
     
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    Tbh I'd almost like to see Zlatan get a ban, as it will tell us a lot about Mourinho. Will he genuinely show commitment to the long term future of the club and play Rashford or Martial as focal points for the attack, or will he revert to type and play Rooney to be cautious and stick with experience to try and be more certain about the short term results.
     
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  12. Chief

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    Exactly. If he reverts to Rooney then the futures of those two becomes clouded.

    I would say Martial has more or less secured a place off the left in any sane world but for me Rashford is our future centre forward. Be good to see him get a three game run.

    Him with Martial and Mhky either side should be excellent, especially up against Boro and the Baggies.
     
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  13. Paulpowersleftfoot

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    The important games are the europa ones I would think as that's looking like the easiest route to champions league and Zlatan isn't banned in that competition so it may well be a blessing to keep him fresh
    Rashford with Mata as no 10 would seem the most obvious but mourinho is hard to predict at times,he's just as likely to throw fellaini on
     
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  14. glazerfodder

    glazerfodder Well-Known Member

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    The FA are taking their sweet time about making an announcement. Normally they have made a statement by now about anything arising from the previous weekend. Hopefully that muppet ref has made such a balls-up of his match report that they can't do anything.
     
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    The funny thing is that for all Zlatan's amazing scoring record United apparently has won more games without him. So we don't need all the doom and gloom.

    He can't/shouldn't play all the coming matches anyway. His focussing on the Europa can only be good and I agree we need to give Rashford a run. I would be more confident if Mikhi was available.
     
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    Matth_2014 Well-Known Member

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    They've both been charged with violent conduct.
     
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  17. glazerfodder

    glazerfodder Well-Known Member

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    Ibra will sit out his ban doing something Zen, Rashford will rise to the challenge and Ibra will return - like King Eric - re-energised and ready to go.
     
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  18. BigFox

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    Interesting wording from the FA - seems like Zlatan will get the standard 3 game ban buy Mings might get more http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39182905
     
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    I feel a little sorry for Mings. The way I saw it, Zlats head went towards Mings boot.
     
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  20. Swarbs

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    Shhhh...you'll give the FA an excuse to ban Zlat again for headbutting Mings' boot.

    All these references to Mings making ayone else think of this:

     
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