Things We Think We Think #261

No. 2, haven't seen that miss but how could it have been easier than Grosicki's?

 

Bold bit, spot on. Rest, meh. So other fans who don't agree with them are the "enemy"?

Don't fall for the "Allams goal of divisiveness" but anyone who doesn't think like we do, is the enemy?

Brilliant.

 

Well said on 9a 9b and 10

 

Prior to The Allams ownership - when was the last time city fans were a divided bunch with one group of fans booing or berating the other?

When you've answered that question, you'll realise no.10 is completely on the money.

 

I wondered that. It wasn't in the highlights I've seen and hasn't been mentioned on here that I've seen. I'm curious to see a miss worse than Grosicki's to be honest.

 

Anyone booing or berating anyone else is entirely responsible for their own actions.

Or you're suggesting it's ok to say "it's not my fault, the Allams made me do it"?

 

It would have been nice to see a point about how after a season of awful refereeing decisions we finally had a game where the dodgy decisions went in our favour, we've been waiting long enough!

 

What on earth are you on about?

When was the last time fans turned on each other before the Allams were here.

It's a simple question - do you have a simple answer?

 

To be fair since our move to the KCOM there's always been a bit of a divide in our fan base, we doubled our support overnight with many old fans resenting the new fans, especially when some wanted to sit down and be quiet whilst the others wanted to stand and make noise. You used to and still do see bickering and arguing especially at away games.

 

Yeah it's a strange comment that. I've only seen the highlights but I'm 100% certain there can't have been worse miss than Grosiki's.

 

Hendricksons miss in the seconds half was worse than Grosicki's.

 

I think you'll agree that you and I get along just fine on here, Happy. We're cyber buddies, right?

It has crossed my mind though, that should we go for a pint and the inevitable debate began. **** me it would be a very long night

 

Was that the 30 yarder?

 

Actually...

To keep blindly blaming the Allams for everything is daft. As Fez points out with regularity, this type of whining just detracts from the real issues at the club.

Luckily for you, I'm making allowances for you being way out of touch down there, and you base your opinions on what you read on the internet.

 

I always come back to the same agonising thought, when assessing the Allams tenure.

Oh my ****ing God, what could have been

 

The fans were divided when the Action Group were formed in the late 70's just before we were relegated for the first time to Div 4 and again during the Tigers 2000 campaign.
The Action Group in particular came in for a lot of flak not only from the club and local media but from our own supporters.

 

Please enlighten me as you obviously have your finger on the pulse.

What are the real issues at the club?

 

When masses of Hull City fans take against the owners there is generally an element of resistance to this. I can't speak for what happened in the 70s/80s as I was too young to know what was going on, but in the 90s those opposing the Fish/Needler regime - who would become Tigers 2000 - would often get stick on the BP terraces, more often than not from the older supporters (several of my relatives among them). There was - believe it or not - some pockets of support for the Lloyd regime for some time too (based around Lloyd being a successful businessman, City fans being unrealistic in what they wanted, Lloyd having a 'plan' that we had to be patient over, etc...). I don't recall there being much when we opposed Buchanan/Hinchliffe, but we were so close to the abyss at that point that it's perhaps unsurprising that we were so united.

Those doing the protesting were - if not always by their actions, then their beliefs - largely in the right. A better Hull City was possible, tangible even. We got there eventually. And there's got to be a better situation than what we have currently. I'm not talking about someone coming in and spunking hundreds of millions to get us into the Champions League. Simply someone who treats fans with respect, who makes you feel proud of the club. That period from 2001 to 2009 or so saw everyone connected with Hull City pretty much united. Yes, some didn't like Peter Taylor's tactics, or didn't want to move from BP, but they were so minimal that they weren't worth bothering with, quite frankly. When we were united, on and off the pitch, it was incredible. Uniting the fans right now could and should be so easy. Yet we're not united and there's only one reason for that. The fan base is almost always only ever fractious when we have poor owners.

I read the TWTWT as essentially an attempt to unite those who want to oppose the Allams but can't agree on the best way to do it. Which seems fair enough in my book. Given that the vast, vast majority of City fans now wish to see an end to the Allam regime, it seems reasonable to write something in an attempt to unite this band.