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Things We Think We Think #245

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by Dr.Stanley O'Google, HCFC, Feb 13, 2017.

  1. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    I've had the ball kicked into my hand while it's been outstretched and 10/10 times been penalised for handball. Doesn't matter that it's ball to hand, or my hand is out because I'm running.
     
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  2. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Yes it does. The ref in your games was wrong then.

    I think the mistake people are making with this is they're applying common sense to it:
    Do most people think it should be handball? Yes.
    Do I personally think it should be handball? Yes.
    Is it handball according to the rules? No.
     
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  3. Kempton

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    Why is everyone so certain it wasn't deliberate anyway? His hand was raised above his head.
     
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  4. Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR

    Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR Well-Known Member

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    Have seen no footage of the Markovic incident either on this forum or in any other domain. Will view it when I watch the full match on Arsenal TV tomorrow.
     
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  5. originallambrettaman

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    "We started well, and caused Arsenal problems. They then scored an illegal goal. It was handball."

    From a god among men, that's the end of it. FACT.
     
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  6. Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR

    Mrs. BLUE_MOUNTAINS_BEAR Well-Known Member

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    That god should read the rules before stating such tosh.
     
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  7. SydneyTiger14

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    Precisely.
     
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  8. Obadiah

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    The rules say "the position of the hand does not necessarily mean that there is an infringement" which can also mean the position of the hand does not necessarily mean there is NO infringement.

    Sanchez shot at goal and made himself bigger by the position of his hands to benefit from any rebound from a City player. The clear intention was to get the ball in the net one way or another. That is why Clattenburg said he'd made a mistake. Just my opinion.
     
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  9. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    I'm surprised someone who hasn't yet watched the full match yet is so certain it's tosh when the ref himself thinks he was wrong.

    Sanchez had his hand above his head.
     
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    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    The question of whether it was deliberate or not is subjective, but a goal scored with the hand would not normally be given, the referee said he made a mistake and it should not be given and there won't be another one given all season (unless the ref doesn't see it).

    That god is Marco Silva and I put FACT, so I win.
     
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  11. The Omega Man

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    Fact is that admitting you are wrong when you were right does not right the wrong. If you got it wrong and admitted that you were wrong that still does not make it right either.

    "Mark" is a ****, end of... FACT, I surprised he didn't swop shirts with Gibbs at the end of the game.
     
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  12. bum_chinned_crab

    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    Because his hand was already there before the ball deflected off The Jak.
     
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  13. GLP

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    Or as we like to call it - Assault.
     
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  14. renegadetiger

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    Yeah, I think calling it a "tackle" is way too generous.
     
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  15. GLP

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    Totally agree - Gibbs made no effort whatsoever to play the ball. He only had eyes on flattening Markovic - this was just about the worst refereeing decision I have seen.

    I would have felt more confident in the performance of referees had Clattenburg apologised for this one - it was the worst of the lot. In open play, nothing to obstruct his view, Gibbs clearly and unequivocally the last man. Shamefully poor from our alleged 'elite' official.
     
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  16. bum_chinned_crab

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    100% agree. The 'handball' has completely overshadowed this incident but it was 100% a deliberate foul as the last man knowing he wouldn't have been able to keep up with Markovic. He looked at his man, not the ball, and took him out. Its scandalous that he didn't give this decision, but he was never going to apologise twice.
     
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  17. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Worra load of **** in the op.
    This incident goes against the spirit of the game. That's why clattenburg apologized. You can't decide a game by a goal scored with the hand, even if it was accidentally.
    That is ****ing all.
     
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  18. Kempton

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    I'm ****ing stunned anyone thinks it's ok to score a goal with your hand. A foul is still a foul even if it's just a mistimed tackle and this is no different.
     
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  19. look_back_in_amber

    look_back_in_amber Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so the Gibbs assault on Markovic was classified as accidental.

    **** off Clattenburg!
     
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  20. Fez

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    Yours is an interpretation of the event. Take your interpretation of why he had the body shape he had, consider that along with the ball travelling away from the goal, as well as it hitting his hand (illegal contact) and then reversing travel to go into the goal with no contact with anyone or anything else, then you have a goal that should have been disallowed.

    That should have been the referee's interpretation, as he later accepted, having watched replays. Everything else is bullshit.

    Walcott was guilty of ball abuse and should have walked when he continued to argue.

    Gibbs should have got a red card; no ifs, buts or maybes.

    Clucas rightly drew a red card and a penalty. It wouldn't have happened had it not been for three very poor refereeing decisions.

    We would have played a significant portion of the game against 9 men and the table would look very different.

    We were very badly cheated and the things they think they think are nonsense.
     
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