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  1. Red Hadron Collider

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    I would understand it <ok>
     
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    The particles are what make Carling taste so bad. Their combined spin and charge cause normal tasting lager to taste like piss.



    / Particle physics is about as dry as you can get with the sciences.
     
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    This may seem like a stupid question. I was watching a documentary on Netflix last night called Star Men about 4 retired British Astronomers reuniting to take a road trip back around the telescopes etc they worked at..

    Donald Lynden-Bell, Roger Griffin, Nick Wolfe and Wallace Sargent. I'm sure these guys are known to the scientists among you.

    Good documentary.

    Anyway...when I read a book I visualise what the writing describes.

    Do mathematicians and physicists visualise in the same way when looking at their calculations? Or is it something different that can only be understood by peers?

    Clunky question clarity but hopefully you see what I'm getting at?
     
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    Their brains work in a different way. Good Horizon on tonight at 8.00 pm on BBC4 <ok>
     
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    Cheers. Clearly work in a better way than mine lol..
     
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    That actually sounds like a good watch!
     
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    I don't do **** scientific advice <ok>
     
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    I've just had a look myself and I've seen it before. It's ****ing mind-blowing <ok>
     
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    I saw that doc too, about six months ago. I was a bit taken aback by Wolfe's assertion that manned spaceflight is a wasteof time, me being an Apollo-nut and all that, but I recently saw an interview with Jim McDivitt where even he said the same thing. Challenges assumptions, I suppose.

    As to visualisations - even as I write this, I visualise all the TV programmes, the concepts, etc that I refer to. I think everyone does - the human brain is based @ 80% of our sensory perceptions being visual. It's the human condition. That said, i read a book by Brian Cox last year, and in it he said that his tutors in particle physics had said on his first day in uni to forget any idea of 'seeing' the mechanisations of inside an atom, as they defy all our human experiences at the classical physics level. Bohr vehemently opposed any visual representations of the topic, including Feynman diagrammes. 'Shut up and calculate' was the mantra.
     
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    Never forget that our brain is best adapted to support a hunter-gatherer lifestyle, which is what, in evolutionary terms, it still 'thinks' we are. It's designed to remember routes and journeys, friends and foes, anticipate the emotions of others, teach you lessons not to do things that hurt or scared you that you got away from. In short, to give you the best possible advantage to survive in the wild - and it's primary mechanism to do this is to play films in your head.

    The best, best thing I've seen on in for years (if not ever) was the BBC4 series The Brain, with David Eagleman. Think it might be on YouTube, if not still on I'Player.
     
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    Will have to give that a go. <ok>
     
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    Yes, I was surprised by that too. I can see his argument from his data gathering point of view. There again did the Apollo missions capture imagination and inspire a generation of people in the relevant fields...astronomy, engineering etc..

    Talking of. Do you think we should now spend the money as Wolfe suggests or does this or the next generation need say, A Mars expedition to galvanise once again? Is the money spent worth it?

    Personally as a human being I think we grow by expanding our horizons and deeper space exploration as well as Deep sea exploration does that...but then it's not likely to be my tax money unless it's an international effort. I'd support it if it did.
     
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    Have you finished the Penrose book yet?
     
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    All three - manned Mars, data gathering (some really exciting concepts re mini sails being accelerated by lasers to Alpha Centurai - forty years for data to return, I heard quoted) AND deep sea stuff. Still more people walked on the moon than been to Challenger Deep, and all that. I recently saw both Jim Lovell and Tom Stafford, and both emphasised the importance of governments leading projects, just as in Apollo. Tom Stafford in particular is no bleeding-heart Keynesian, but he as much as Lovell (and Armstrong and Cernan before they died) can't press enough that it needs government to direct and fund private enterprise in this endeavour, not just to wait for private companies to decide to do something. Think it was Lovell who said that Columbus, Cook, Tasman, Magellan, etc were all 'government' funded. I read somewhere that Columbus hawked his idea to Henry VII before Ferdinand (Spanish King, not camel lip) and Isabella accepted him.... :emoticon-0108-speec
     
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    nearly. What helped was looking up The Emperor's New Mind on Youtube, and there was a documentary from the 90's on it. Crikey, Penrose is a clever man, but he's no Feynman when it comes to explaining stuff, is he? I mean I get what an algorithm is, but ffs - he then spends a 100 pages going through every single algorithm connected to his theory... :emoticon-0114-dull:
     
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    Very few, if any, people like Feynman have ever been born. A bona fide genius of the highest order and a good guy to boot,
     
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    Cancer cells cast a sweet spell on the immune system
    Researchers try to wake up immune cells by focusing on the sugars on the tumor surface
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    ESTHER LANDHUIS
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    CANCER'S SWEET CLOAK Large surface proteins with chains of sugars (illustrated, yellow) on the outside of a cancer cell hide the tumor from immune attack and lull the immune system into a do-nothing trance.

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    Shrink yourself small enough to swoop over the surface of a human cell, and you might be reminded of Earth’s terrain. Fats, or lipids, stay close to the surface, like grasses and shrubs. Proteins stand above the shrubs, as mighty oaks or palm trees. But before you could distinguish the low-lying lipids from the towering proteins, you’d see something else adorning these molecules — sugars.

    If proteins are the trees, sugars are the mosses that dangle from the branches or, perhaps, the large fronds of the palm. “The cell surface is basically coated with sugars,” says Carolyn Bertozzi, a chemist at Stanford University. “They’re what viruses, bacteria and other cells see first when they touch down on a target cell.”

    The sugars that attach to cell-surface proteins and lipids often take on elaborate structures. Information encoded within these structures helps cells recognize each other and relay messages in virtually every tissue and organ system. Yet compared with life’s other building blocks — proteins, lipids and nucleic acids — sugars languish in research obscurity. Most sugars are so complex that many scientists are ill-equipped to understand the basic biology, Bertozzi says. “They literally steer their research program in a different direction.”

    Not Bertozzi. She’s among a small crew of scientists who have spent their careers steeped in sugars. Some of their studies have led to a new insight into cancer therapy: Manipulating sugars on the surface of tumor cells has the potential to expand an exciting new class of cancer drugs.

    Much of the current optimism about fighting cancer focuses on immune therapies — drugs that awaken the body’s defenses to attack tumors (SN: 12/27/14, p. 8). The therapies focus on blocking protein interactions that suppress the immune system (SN: 7/11/15, p. 14). Such treatments have helped thousands of patients with cancers once untreatable, including former President Jimmy Carter, who was treated in 2015 and 2016 for advanced melanoma.

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    Surface tension
    Cancer cells have surface proteins and sugars that link with immune cells to quiet their reaction to the cancer. Current immune therapies block interactions between PD-L1 proteins (light green) on tumor cells and PD-1 proteins (teal) on T cells to awaken the immune system to the tumor. A new wave of therapies could target parallel interactions between sialic acid sugars (orange) on the tumor and sugar-binding Siglec proteins (purple) on natural killer cells and other innate immune cells.



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    PD-1 (teal) is a protein on T cells. If tumor protein PD-L1 (light green) binds to it, the T cell leaves the tumor alone.
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    Blocking the protein on the tumor (shown) or the protein on the immune cell can wake up T cells to attack the tumor.
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    Siglecs (purple) are on immune cells, such as natural killer cells. If sialic acids (orange) bind to Siglecs, the cells ignore the tumor.
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    New therapies could awaken natural killer cells by trimming sialic acids from the tumor (shown) or blocking Siglecs.
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    Source: V.H. Trang and P.D. Senter/PNAS 2016

    But so far these drugs, called checkpoint blockers, work only against some cancers, such as melanoma, kidney cancer and non-small cell lung cancer, and not for all patients. An estimated 10 to 20 percent of cancer patients who get the drugs show improvement.

    A new wave of potential immune therapies aims to target cell-surface sugars instead of proteins. Researchers hope these new approaches will rouse new warriors — an entirely different part of the immune system — to the fight. Current protein-targeting immune therapies activate killer T cells, part of the adaptive immune system with a memory for intruders and an ability to respond to specific threats.

    Sugar-targeting drugs, on the other hand, would alert cells of the innate immune system, such as natural killer cells, or NK cells, and macrophages. Innate immune cells also help defend the body against bad guys, be they flu viruses or cells that have turned cancerous, but the innate cells kick into action more quickly and with less specialized responses than T cells. The two systems are complementary.

    Clever disguise
    Knowing what to attack requires immune cells to distinguish self from foreign, and sugars play a key role. One class of surface sugars, called sialic acids, mark the body’s cells as “self.” Sialic acids have a range of biological functions — their roles are so essential that preventing synthesis of these sugars in mice kills the animals in utero.


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    Cancer tissues have extra sugars (stained blue) that bind to the protein Siglec-9 on natural killer cells and so quiet the immune response. Left panel shows breast cancer tissue; right shows prostate cancer.

    To our defense system, cell-surface sugars are a molecular fingerprint, telling a roving immune cell, “This one’s OK. Move along,” Bertozzi says. Certain pathogens, such as the bacteria that cause gonorrhea or streptococcal infections, have taken advantage. They coat themselves with sialic acids to hide from the immune system. Several years ago scientists wondered if tumors might use a similar trick. “We thought, ‘if bacteria are doing that, maybe cancer cells do too,’ ” says glycobiologist Ajit Varki of the University of California, San Diego.

    That suspicion has roots in a strange but widespread observation researchers had made many years before: Sialic acids cluster in unusual ways on the surface of tumor cells. The observation intrigued Bertozzi. In the late 1990s, while starting up her lab at the University of California, Berkeley, she saw sialic acids as a potential marker for cancer. An expert in designing chemical reactions to tag molecules within living systems, Bertozzi thought about developing an early detection test that measured excess sialic acids.

    Paper after paper came out linking cancer with an overgrowth of cell-surface sugars. However, none of the studies explained what triggers the ramp-up of sialic acids or why it matters. “What was the biological consequence? We didn’t know,” Bertozzi says. So her cancer detection idea sat on the back burner.

    Then Bertozzi came across a 2010 paper in the Journal of Immunology that suggested there was more to the story. In that study, researchers in Israel used chemicals to cause tumors in mice bred to have weak immune systems. Tumors growing in these animals had lower levels of sialic acids, compared with tumors induced in normal mice. In separate experiments in lab dishes, the researchers stripped sialic acids off the surface of tumor cells and saw natural killer cells wake up and attack the cancer. To the researchers, the connection was stunning: Sialic acids seemed to protect tumors from the immune system.

    Connecting the dots
    While Bertozzi puzzled over sialic acids, a few other research teams had already spent decades studying immune cells that recognize and bind to these sugars.

    Paul Crocker, an immunologist at the University of Dundee in Scotland, studies macrophages, part of the early responding, innate immune system. Greek for “big eaters,” macrophages feel their way with sticky spaghetti-like arms to find and devour pathogens and dying cells. In 1986, Crocker’s team discovered a protein that makes macrophages sticky. The researchers later named it sialoadhesin because it binds to sialic acids on the surface of other cells. Checking for signature DNA sequences in the gene that codes for sialoadhesin, researchers were excited to discover the protein wasn’t a lone ranger — it’s part of a large family of proteins already known to help immune cells signal to each other. “That was a breakthrough moment,” Crocker says.

    In 1993, Varki and colleagues found a different set of immune cells, from the adaptive immune system, that also recognize sialic acids. B cells, which help call T cells into action, have a surface protein called CD22 that binds to cell-surface sialic acids.

    A flurry of studies turned up more immune cell surface proteins with similar features. A total of 14 proteins, known as “Siglecs,” now make up this group of immune cell molecules that bind to sialic acid sugars. The founding members, sialoadhesin and CD22, are known as Siglec-1 and Siglec-2.

    When Siglec-7 was discovered on natural killer cells, Crocker’s attention went to cancer. Guarding against tumors is “what NK cells are famous for,” he says.

    In this crystal structure, the Siglec-7 protein (gray ribbon) binds to sialic acid (red atoms are oxygen, yellow are carbon and blue are nitrogen).

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    By 2014, a trio of papers confirmed that Crocker’s shift to focusing on cancer made sense. Varki’s lab and a team led by Stephan von Gunten of the University of Bern in Switzerland analyzed biopsy material from people with various cancers. These studies showed that sialic acids on patient tumors indeed bind to Siglecs on human innate immune cells.

    Once again, the cell-surface sugars acted like a cloak. When sialic acids bind to Siglecs on the surface of NK cells, these immune cells lose their cancer-fighting ability. That fact was shown in a common cell culture test that mixed immune cells with radioactive tumor cells. When NK cells attacked, the tumor cells burst and released radioactivity. But when NK activity was weak, less radioactivity leeched out.

    Bertozzi and colleagues provided further support for the cloaking idea by working out a method to adjust the level of sialic acids on cells. The system was artificial — synthetic sugar molecules planted on the surface of human cancer cell lines — but it clearly showed cause and effect, she says. By dialing up sialic acids, the researchers could protect cells from NK killing. The team shared its findings in 2014 in Nature Chemical Biology.

    With evidence from multiple labs suggesting that tumors cloak themselves in sialic acids to thwart the immune system, it was time to think about devising treatments that awaken the immune cells from their sugar-induced stupor.

    Unpredictable diversity
    Sugars far outnumber proteins among surface molecules responsible for distinguishing tumor from normal, Varki says. So you’d think they would make easier drug targets. Trouble is, sugars are immensely harder to study than proteins.


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    Synthetic sialic acids (green) stick to the surface of cancer cells from rodents (top) and humans (bottom), giving researchers a way to test the effects of adjusting sugar levels on immune cell activity.
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    Both proteins and sugars adopt three-dimensional shapes to do their work. Once researchers have a protein’s genetic blueprints in hand, they can predict its structure. Sugars, on the other hand, have no clear templates. A sugar’s shape and structure are determined by a sequence of enzymatic reactions that can be hard to predict. Different cells turn on different sugar-modifying enzymes, so the same sugar can adopt a range of conformations. The “degree of complexity is thousands, if not millions, times that of proteins,” Varki says.


    These structural differences affect how well sugars bind to proteins and lipids. And those interactions can have life-or-death ramifications, such as shielding cancer cells from immune attack.

    Sugars are the “dark matter” of the biological universe, Varki says. They “affect everything, but hardly anybody studies them.”

    Another checkpoint
    To further complicate matters, sugars such as sialic acid are just one part of a tumor’s cell-surface barcode. Other players such as proteins also tell immune cells whether to attack or move on. The good news is that current immune therapies awaken immune cells to fight cancer by disrupting some of these proteins. Bertozzi and others think they can apply similar strategies to target cell-surface sugars.

    Protein-based immune therapies work by deactivating cellular “off” switches on immune cells. One off switch involves a protein called PD-1 on the surface of T cells. When PD-1 latches onto the protein PD-L1 on a tumor cell, the T cell is turned off, rendered powerless against the cancer.

    Siglecs play a similar role to PD-1, but mostly on natural killer cells and macrophages rather than T cells. The sialic acids on tumor cells work like the PD-L1. Just as existing immunotherapy drugs block PD-1, it’s conceivable to design new therapies to block Siglecs so that innate immune cells won’t be turned off. Indeed, biotech companies are pursuing these and other sugar-centric approaches.

    But blocking too many of the immune system’s off switches could be dangerous. They have an important job: guarding against overzealous T cell activity that could trigger autoimmune disease.

    Rather than go after Siglecs on immune cells, Bertozzi and colleagues are focusing on the sialic acids on the tumor cells. As long as a tumor cell wears a thick coat of sialic acid, immune cells won’t touch it, she says. “If you could strip off those sugars, the immune system could see the cancer cell for what it really is — something that needs to be destroyed.”

    Many organisms, including humans and some microbes, have an enzyme that clips sialic acids off the ends of larger carbohydrate, protein or lipid molecules. Some versions of these enzymes, called sialidases, are commercially available as lab reagents. Bertozzi’s group decided to make its own by purifying large batches of the enzyme from bacterial cultures.

    The trick was finding a way to point the sialidase specifically at tumor cells without letting it cut willy-nilly everywhere else.

    Cancer cell editing
    To get the sialidase to focus on tumor cells, Bertozzi and colleagues repurposed Herceptin, a blockbuster cancer drug. Herceptin is an antibody that recognizes a protein called HER2 on the surface of many breast tumors. When the antibody binds to HER2, it marks the tumor cell for destruction by innate immune cells, such as natural killer cells and macrophages. And since Herceptin binds to tumor cells better than normal cells, Bertozzi figured it could work as a delivery device to bring sialidase to tumors.

    License to kill
    Herceptin is an antibody that binds to the protein HER2 on the surface of some breast cancer cells. Researchers fused Herceptin with sialidase, an enzyme that cuts sialic acids off larger molecules, and showed this antibody-enzyme combo (blue circles) rouses natural killer cells to kill cancer cells. An antibody with no sialidase enzyme had little effect on immune activity.



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    Source: H. Xiao et al/PNAS 2016

    Using a method her lab had developed for joining antibodies to small molecules, Bertozzi’s team fused a sialidase enzyme with the Herceptin antibody. The researchers added the antibody-enzyme combo into a mixture of breast cancer cells with varying levels of HER2 on the surface. When the drug latched onto HER2 proteins on the tumor cells, the sialidase trimmed sialic acids like a chemical lawn mower, Bertozzi explains.

    The strategy — published in September in Proceedings of the National Academy of Scienceslooks promising in these lab dish experiments, but it will take additional refining before the approach can be tested in people. One safety consideration relates to the antibody’s target, HER2. Though it is found in excess on breast cancer cells, the protein is also found at low levels on normal cells. So it’s possible the “lawn mower” could stray and trim sialic acids from cells that need the sugars for proper function.

    Another concern: The engineered molecules contain bacterial sialidase, which — like other foreign proteins entering our bodies — would probably trigger a vigorous immune response. The antibody-enzyme combination “is a good proof of principle” showing it’s feasible to edit molecules on cancer cells, Varki says. “But I don’t think [the injections] would be practical to do repeatedly.”

    Bertozzi is thinking along similar lines. Since publishing version 1.0 of the chemical lawn mower, her lab group has created version 2.0 and is now testing it in animal models. Version 3.0 will fuse antibodies with human sialidase, which is less likely to trigger an immune response, Bertozzi says. Her team is also working to attach sialidase to antibodies attracted to molecules other than HER2, to direct the enzyme to different kinds of tumors.

    Two-faced macrophages
    Meanwhile, other secrets lurk within the sugar coating on tumor cells. One of them emerged in a study published in November in Nature Immunology. A team led by biologist Joy Burchell of King’s College London was studying a large protein studded with sugars, including sialic acids. Called MUC1, this protein adorns the surface of normal epithelial cells found in the lungs, stomach, intestines, eyes and other organs. Modified forms of MUC1 appear on various cancer cells. Siglec-9 on the surface of macrophages is known to bind to tumor-specific versions of MUC1.

    When those odd MUC1s bind to Siglec-9 on macrophages, the immune cells are thrown into a trance, the researchers found. The binding quiets macrophages in such a way that they ignore the tumor cell. Researchers had known macrophages adopt this weird state around tumors, but this study shows that MUC1 drives the transformation.

    Not only does the MUC1–Siglec-9 interaction seem to shut down macrophage activity, it makes macrophages, which have some PD-L1, display even more. The finding raises questions because PD-L1 is a target of some immune therapies.

    Current immune therapies unleash T cells to attack tumors by blocking the off-switch interactions between PD-1 and PD-L1. Focusing on the innate immune system could also help, and this paper suggests a possible target, Burchell says. She plans to work with a company to test, among other things, if blocking Siglec-9 can slow tumor growth in mice. And Varki cofounded Siamab Therapeutics in Newton, Mass., to design therapies that target other abnormal sugars on cancer cells. None of these drugs have entered human testing.

    The under-the-radar work on sialic acids over the last few decades may have exposed just the edge of a dense forest. It’s likely that other sugars also form cloaks to shield tumor cells from immune attack, Bertozzi says. Translating such insights into actual therapies will require biologists to jump into the sugar fray and venture deeper than ever before. Bertozzi is hopeful: “We might be on the cusp of entering that phase.”
     
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    Professor Tara Shears, from the University of Liverpool, a leading member of the “beauty” team, said: “These particles have been hiding in plain sight for years, but it's taken the exquisite sensitivity of LHCb's particle detectors to bring them to our attention.”

    The five particles are all baryons – subatomic particles made up of three smaller units called quarks.

    Quarks, one of the basic building blocks of matter, come in six “flavours” known as up, down, strange, charm, top and bottom.

    The newly discovered particles are high-energy versions of the omega-c baryon, a particle made up of two strange quarks and one charm quark.

    Rather satisfying that a female Prof from out illustrious university is a leading member of the 'beauty team'. I'd like to 'atom smash' her <laugh>
     
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    In 1967, LSD was briefly labeled a breaker of chromosomes
    Excerpt from the April 1, 1967, issue of Science News
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    LONG, STRANGE TRIP LSD briefly got tagged as a gene breaker a half century ago before getting a reprieve. Researchers are still trying to figure out how this substance triggers intense, long-lasting hallucinations.

    ZORAN RAS/SHUTTERSTOCK

    Magazine issue: Vol. 191 No. 6, April 1, 2017, p. 4
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    LSD may damage chromosomes



    Two New York researchers have found the hallucinogenic drug will markedly increase the rate of abnormal change in chromosomes. [Scientists] tested LSD on cell cultures from the blood of two healthy individuals … [and] also found similar abnormal changes in the blood of a schizophrenic patient who had been treated with [LSD]. The cell cultures showed a two-fold increase in chromosomal breaks over the normal rate. — Science News, April 1, 1967

    UPDATE
    Psychedelic-era reports that LSD damages chromosomes got lots of press but fell apart within a few years. A review in Science in 1971 concluded that ingesting moderate doses of LSD caused no detectable genetic damage. Researchers are still trying to figure out the molecular workings of the drug. Recent evidence suggests that the substance gets trapped in a pocket of the receptor for serotonin, a key chemical messenger in the brain. Its prolonged stay may explain why LSD trips can last up to a day or more (SN: 3/4/17, p. 16).

    So get it down your throat <ok>
     
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