The Politics Thread

With changes to electoral boundaries and the unbreakable dominance of the Tories outside the inner cities, the Tories can't lose this election. May can't f*** it up, however hard she tries.
She just doesn't want to have to answer questions about her policies and her agenda in calling an election.
But whatever minimal damage might be caused by being challenged in a debate can be avoided by simply saying nothing.

 

Exactly, Luke.

As I've said, she has nothing to gain by debating. She's a lightweight and would almost certainly end up facing questions that she would rather not have to answer.

She's more than on course to win this election, so why would she risk that in a live debate which could expose her for what she is.

 

Theresa may's election thus far...
Tuesday - bans TV debates
Wednesday - bans the public from an event
Thursday - bans the press from an event
Friday - bans people attending her photo-op from talking to the press

Should we start learning Turkish now?

 

Gunaydin, HBIC!!

 

Some of the Tory papers have been sticking the boot into May this morning, presumably as she's not quite rabidly right-wing enough.
A little bit of a warning of what will happen if she doesn't toe the line, I think.

The Times:

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The Filth:

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Nanny sues for Mel B's fortune ????

 

That fortune was made by profiting from multiple crimes against humanity

 

There's an article in the Fail today criticising people who want facts, evidence and reason to be used more in politics.
I'm not sure that I need to add any more, but how is anyone against science, exactly? I don't get it.

 

Talking of the Fail.....
The Power behind the Throne?????
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4436222/Rupert-Murdoch-phones-Trump-week-talk-strategy.html

This will hardly come as a shock, but perhaps gives some confirmation of the unhealthy, dangerous influence that the Dirty Digger has over the POTUS!

 

Didn't take long before the media found something they can attack Tim Farron for, did it?
http://www.itv.com/news/2017-04-23/...ive-over-failure-to-say-gay-sex-is-not-a-sin/

 

Always amuses me to see politniks squirm on this one.
If you deem sin to be going against the edicts of a divine power, then
for various religions it is a sin.

The lesson from this : Define your terms carefully, and debate on that basis.

 

It's worth pointing out that, a couple of days ago, Farron wrote a piece in The I (The i? the i? Seriously, somebody needs to be clear on the formatting of that...) calling May fragile and weak as well as calling her out for ducking scrutiny: https://inews.co.uk/opinion/theresa...tes-let-public-scrutinize-hard-brexit-agenda/

Funny how a hatchet job was done on him shortly after, eh?

 

Is that the best they can do???
And relying on the likes of Gove and Kendall to lead the moral outrage!!

 

And completely ignoring the fact that he publicly countered this a few days ago....
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ntral-to-debate-as-he-plots-to-win-back-seats

 

Actually it's more cynical than that: he said he does not believe that being gay is a sin on Peston, at which point he was pressed on whether he believes gay sex is a sin.

How about a little equality and pose those same questions to the vicar's daughter?

 

This is Farron's own fault, though. He needs to clarify his position.
Going by his voting record, he seems to be entirely in favour of equality across the whole sexuality debate.
He clearly does think that gay sex is a sin, but it doesn't have anything to do with him if other people choose to do it.
He'd be better off if he just said that.

Entirely agree with this, though.
May's like a lot of the current Conservatives when it comes to religion. Very selective about where she'll mention it.
It's unlikely that she'll face similar questions, though her voting record's in stark contrast to Farron's.

 

I know where you're coming from, but No, it really isn't PNP. He's said it as clearly as his faith will allow him and to some extent he's relying on the record you refer to.

However, it does confuse me slightly that the Tory press would be seeking to make an opposition politician appear more appealing to their core voter demographic!!

 

I don't think that he has been clear though, SOTM.
He's said that being gay isn't a sin, but I haven't seen him say that gay sex isn't a sin.
It's a dodge that I've seen others use before and I think he's applying it here.

I'm happy to see any evidence to the contrary though, of course.

 

He's a supporter of Gay marriage as well...... As he's a practicing Christian I imagine that he probably would regard any sex outside wedlock as a sin. Maybe he should just make this clear?
I'm an Atheist (with Agnostic tendencies and appreciation of Buddhism lol), so wouldn't have this particular issue to face, but respect the personal beliefs of others as long as they don't discriminate against others.

 

I'm sure that most people feel that way, which is why I think Farron's made a mistake on the issue.
If he'd just make it clear, then it would be a lot harder to misrepresent his position.