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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. GoldhawkRoad

    GoldhawkRoad Well-Known Member

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    If the EU deliberately sets out to damage the UK, with the view to discouraging other EU member states from leaving the organisation, there will be bad feeling and I would expect the UK generally to gravitate towards to the US, including re-security, reducing cooperation with the EU. Fact of life, Mr Junckers might care to remember.
     
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    A bit low,wouldn't you say, making threats regarding anything by either side before negotiations on anything has even started
     
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    To be honest Stainesy the only way house prices in the South of England are going is up......
     
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    Surely the more everyone cooperates on security, the safer we all are? Are we going to refuse to provide information on a potential threat because they wouldn't give us what we want on trade? It's daft.
     
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  5. GoldhawkRoad

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    There are levels of cooperation. Of course, if we learned about a specific threat, we would pass that on. But how much do Germany and the US work together? - not as much as the UK and the US, I would guess.
     
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    Bloody hell 'Kettle/black'! Haven't the EU been threatening us since before and after Brexit? Short memory you have troll.
    On a serious note, I agree with what some bloke said today in that we (UK) will try and splinter the EU and make deals with various countries which will be in their interests. A country that makes a lot of money through dealing with the UK will not risk business if someone else gets the deal.
    One by one the will fall into line.
     
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    I assume you're alluding to some kind of threat made by the EU? There's threats and there's threats though. This is like saying 'we know where your kids go to school'.
     
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    So you are happy with a negotiating stance that essentially says 'give us a free trade deal or we won't share intelligence which could save lives in Europe?'. If that is really what she is saying, I'm ashamed of my government, even if it's only posturing.
    I haven't got the faintest idea mate. I'd guess price rises will continue to slow because of uncertainty. But it's probably a good time to buy if you need a mortgage because rates may not stay so low.
     
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    We would share any specific intelligence - see my answer to Strolls. But the balance re security would tilt towards the US, which is where it was before we joined the EU. It's naive to think that positive cooperation would build with the EU if the EU has acted in bad faith over the terms of our leaving the club (which is more than just a free trade deal,- you've been selective, Stan)

    All the threats are emanating from certain individuals in the EU - the UK responds every now and then.
     
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    If interest rates rise house purchases should slow or maybe drop as mortgages become more expensive.
     
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    Nice Scottish flag on the 50 euro note.
     
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    One of the things that undermined our 'sovereignty' under the European Communities Act was the power that government assumed to incorporate EU regulations directly into U.K. law without parliamentary scrutiny. Hence the understandable distress felt by some of the 'anti democratic' nature of EU. But necessary to be a member of the EU, and at least scrutinised by the European Parliament.

    This power for the government to make regulations which change Acts of Parliament without referring to Parliament are included in the Great Repeal Act White Paper. Now there won't be any scrutiny of these regulations.

    Viva democracy!
     
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    Bloody hell! We've got two years of the remoaners hoping and preying that our Country will fail, just so they can say they were right. It could get very tiresome! Especially that twat Tim Farron.
    They've already been wrong on so many things like the economy going into meltdown immediately after the vote, the need for an emergency budget, higher unemployment etc etc.........................oh and world war three!!!!
    There will be bumps in the road over the next two years and every time there is these depressing, negative bores will chime up with "there you go, we were right".

    Let's be positive and talk this great Nation up.
     
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