'Smack on the Bum or a Cuddle'

Avoided the question then.................Burnley are atrocious away from home.....is that also bad management?
NB. They've picked up one point only, away from home all season........Yep, Fluent almost robotic!!

 

I did not see your post. My view is regardless of away form Burnley are fulfilling their potential based upon organisation.

Organisation ... A word Bristol City as a team are not associated with.

 

Still avoided the question!! Try again
Burnley are atrocious away from home.....is that also bad management?
Organisation away from home, one point all season........you must put that down to bad management.......I know you would had that been LJ at BCFC..
Thing is, LJ try's different things to try and get results, not always worked out, but had he not.......he would be crucified for not doing anything........

 

I did not avoid the question .Burnley are fulfilling their potential. Burnley are a well drilled team. I do not think it would be sensible for them to be tearing up the Premier league. Sunday that was a defensive master class. Do you disagree?

What did you think of Derby's goals Saturday? When Goldbourne was left one v two why did the team drop off instead of push up and assist Goldbourne? What was the midfield doing? They were not pressing or getting compact, Why was Flint not facing up? Is that not a symptom of a Manager who has been over complicating team formation instead of concentrating on the basics?

 

Have a good long look at the first half footage on BC Player, just in case you didn't go up to Derby.
There was much to admire about our play, even though we didn't win.
Personally I can sympathise with LJ on this.
Its not the manager's fault Taylor switched off before the game was finished, or that Bryan and Brownhill seem to lack basic finishing skills. Suffice to say, if they were MY players I would have them out on the training pitch 2 hours after everyone else had gone home, practicing shooting and finishing past Mr Fielding until they are scoring 95% of their shots. But then if I were the manager the whole squad would be there, and I would erect a large Tesco sign on the perimeter just to remind the players where they could end up working
The Brian Clough school of PROPER football management

 

I watched a storming film last night.
Whiplash (no, not a film about a dominatrix, but good luck trying to find it without discovering a whole mess of porn lol).
The film is about an aspiring young musician, who wants to be The Best, and the lunatic who guides him there.

If you've seen it you will know exactly where I am coming from.
Its what we need to turn these expensive mannequins into Premiership footballers

 

Offensively City were fine.

But without the ball. They have to spend more time on the training pitch working on the shape they will be playing. Without the ball in the second half it was shambolic. Citys players were doing different things. Players were reacting to the same scenario in different manners. Press, hold lines or drop and get compact, not all three.

Won't work if they have not done the work.

 

Agreed !

 

A well drilled and organised Bristol City held on to gain the three points.

Not seen that team.

 

Yep, still avoiding the question, well drilled blah blah, yes we know they have been good at home, but away, shambolic, so who's that down to? Players or manager?
Why would it not be sensible to be tearing up the prem?
Why was Flint not facing up!!........... Is it LJ's responsibility for every movement every player makes? Could be numerous reasons, ridiculous statement.
IMO their first goal was a killer which gained them momentum to pile on the pressure for the 2nd and the pen was the nail in the coffin.
He's a manager that try's things to improve the team......sometimes it works.....like I said, had we drew 3-3 in which he did nothing, you would have slammed him for that.. no win situation..
Oh, and had Matty Taylor scored that sitter, we wouldn't be having this discussion!

 

I answered your question. You avoided questions.

Burnley have barely spent any time in the top division, but a bit more than BCFC in the past thirty years. To expect them to be top six with Arsenal, Chelsea etc is odd. To expect a team to be organised is not.

I have stated City offensively in the matchday thread City were fine.But without the ball are poor.

Why was Flint not facing up!!........... Is it LJ's responsibility for every movement every player makes? In a team shape it is the Managers role to communicate clearly what he wants. City are not a well organised team and that is a reflection of the Manager. The team is a reflection of the Manger. If it is not he is not Managing them.

He's a manager that try's things to improve the team......sometimes it works.....like I said, had we drew 3-3 in which he did nothing, you would have slammed him for that ... If the goals were scintillating I would have applauded Derby, but they were down to tactics and City's less than disciplined defending - Work not done on the training pitch.

Oh, and had Matty Taylor scored that sitter, we wouldn't be having this discussion ... Possibly, or more probably City would have still conceded due to what was occurring out of possession

 

You saying a team with one win in 15 and cant win when 3 up are not crap at defending?

 

Cliftonville, are you a politician? Direct question but unable to answer it and then you bring in your own questions.......you quoted that the game you watched with Burnley v Chelsea, that they were well drilled, organised in defence, knew what they were doing......blah blah. My question was, yes they have been doing well at home but their away form is atrocious, I think the worst in the prem......IS THIS DOWN TO (A) PLAYERS OR (B) MANAGEMENT? Look, I have made it easy for you.....A or B

"Burnley have barely spent any time in the top division, but a bit more than BCFC in the past thirty years. To expect them to be top six with Arsenal, Chelsea etc is odd. To expect a team to be organised is not."
Well I know it's rare but Leicester managed it last season and had Burnleys form been as good away as it has been at home they would be in and around the top 6...........same question......A or B

 

I've not said that have I? Derby must also be crap at defending even though their 8th, as they let 3 in the first half against a side that are in the bottom 5..

 

Whether people blame the players, the management, or the owner, the result is still the same.

The buck stops with the Manager. Always has done and always will do.

Players and senior management don't get sacked for poor performances and underperforming players but Managers do.
It may not always be fair but it's how it is.

 

Stating the obvious Angelic, but that wasn't the question from a statement by Cliftonville regarding Burnley...who thinks we should look at them in the way they defend etc..I want to know, is their home form, which is good, down to management or players, same question for their away form, which is the worst in the premier (one point all season)?
I understand that fans are frustrated and yes the buck stops with the manager. But I can also see, I think he is trying too hard to get a perfect team and formation etc....sometimes that backfires, by chopping and changing etc......but much prefer that than a manager like SOD that did nothing.. I still think he's getting closer to having a decent team...........................................................Yes yes, he's had money & backing blah blah, but sometimes that plays a big part & sometimes that's a distraction.
I must admit that one thing that disappoints me with LJ, is that he hasn't learned enough from his dad, who managed to get ordinary players to group together and play as a team.................but I think it will come, if he has the time!

 

What is the difference between a head coach and a manager ?

 

They are spelt differently

 

I don't think that comparing Burnley (to us ?) is a fair measure.
Burnley, like Bournemouth and others in the Prem are incredibly small fish in not a pond, but in a vast ocean when compared to the Man Citys and Chelseas of this world.

But they play to their strengths at Turf Moor and their home form is amazing considering who they've played and beaten.
Whether it's the crowd/atmosphere or just playing at home that works the magic I don't know. Shaun Dyche might.....

I don't know whether the squad of players we have do, or don't believe in their Manager at City. But we seem mentally incapable indisciplined and fragile when defending a lead at home or away, which is something we did very well under SC, at least in L1 which is probably the biggest gripe among fans. And the worst part is that this has been happening since the very start of the season. I know personnel have changed but our insistence of throwing away leads hasn't.

 

Can't disagree with that.
I personally think though, that if they didn't believe in the manager, we would be getting thrashed week in week out...Bit like Villa with Bruce at the moment. Ok he hasn't had his group of players as long as LJ but also doesn't make them bad managers.....I still feel there's a tweak needed to make us a decent side...I could be wrong and we get a thrashing tonight...LJs learning and IMO not far off.....we could get a new manager in and still get relegated...both a gamble, but as there is no manager out there available that stands out to give me full confidence of turning it around any better....I'm still backing LJ.