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Tips / Bets Predictions for 2017/18

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurf, Aug 6, 2017.

  1. redwhiteandermblue

    redwhiteandermblue Well-Known Member

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    Spurs
    City
    Liverpool
    Chelsea
    Man U
    Arsenal

    RDBD has kindly posted the latest pundit predictions. It's interesting how the tendency of Spurs fans to be miserable bastards dovetails with the belief of old PL hands (most with Man U and Liverpool backgrounds) that the normal order is bound to be restored.

    Spurs scored the most goals and yielded the fewest last year, while 4/4 of our key attacking players should be a year better. We've lost one player who may or may not have been first choice. Our last three finishes have been fifth, third and second. If only there was a trend there. Wembley is the X factor, but we ought to be in the title race for the third season in a row.

    It's also interesting to review my predictions for last year. My problem was that I was dead wrong about the three teams I dislike most. Arsenal and West Ham were much worse than I predicted, and Chelsea were much better. On the other hand, I was nearly right about Spurs (first), Liverpool (third), City (fourth) and Man U (sixth).
     
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  2. Spurf

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    All they do is follow the money, if that worked City would win the league every year with Chelsea as runners up. Their predictions are of little interest as far as I am concerned.
     
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  3. The RDBD

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    Spurs have had over the past two seasons :

    1. 1st/2nd best GF
    2. Best GA
    3. Best GD
    4. PL top scorer

    Which of the above do the pundits believe are going to decisively wilt
    this season to deny Spurs a CL place via the PL ??
     
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  4. littleDinosaurLuke

    littleDinosaurLuke Well-Known Member

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    As banks tell you, past performance should not be relied upon as an indicator of future performance.
    Pundits assume that the big money spending will improve the big spenders.
    Spurs have not spent at all and have a squad which could be tested if there are injuries to key players.
    I don't think you would expect the pundits to go against the populist view that the final table will mirror the money table.
    None of us are good pundits otherwise we would have foreseen Leicester winning the league with the previous year's champions dropping to 10th before climbing back to the top again.
    The pundits - and the bookies too for that matter- assume every year that the clubs who can afford to buy a larger number of better players and have the biggest squads will, on balance, prevail.
     
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  5. The RDBD

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    1. Yet they do use "past performance" as an indicator.

    2. The "money table" has also not correctly predicted the
    positions, however you wish to measure the degree of spend.

    3. If a "pundit" cannot go against the "populist view" based on their
    knowledge, then they should not offer any opinions on the final
    placings.

    4. No expert in any field consistently predicts "black swan" events
    (which is what the Leicester PL win was) , if at all.
     
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  6. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Top 6 PL
    Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal, Utd, Pool, City

    FA Cup
    Pool

    Champions League
    Real

    League Cup
    Spurs

    UEFA cup
    Inter

    Relegation from PL
    Swansea, Huddersfield, Brighton

    Top goal scorer
    Harry

    Player of the year
    Eriksen

    Young player of the year
    Dele

    Surprise Team
    Spurs - Everyone writing us of due to Wembley and lack of signings but think we'll finish top 4 and win a trophy.
     
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  7. Spurf

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    Spot on
     
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  8. The RDBD

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    If a "pundit" says I cannot really say based on my knowledge, so I am
    going purely on summer spend etc, then I would be disappointed
    that they have no deeper insights into making their prediction, but
    hardly a sacking offence eh.
     
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    Top 6 PL
    Spurs, Citeh, Utd, Chavs, l'arse, Everton
    FA Cup: Leicester
    Champions League: Munich
    League Cup: Brighton
    UEFA cup : l'arse
    Relegation from PL: Spammers, Watford, Huddersfield
    Top goal scorer: Harry Kane
    Player of the year: Harry Kane
    Young player of the year: Harry Winks
    Surprise Team: Brighton.
     
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  10. Spurf

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    I also predict that Spurs will appear at Wembley more than any other team in the UK this coming season. If we reach either of the cup finals we will be playing at 'home'.
     
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    They did a study which revealed predicting today would be just like yesterday was a better weather forecast than any other. If you had to predict what will be the richest country in the world next year, you'd be well advised to pick the one that's richest this year.

    It's the fact that pundits don't value continuity that I find so baffling. The best way to get really good is to gather a group of young players and let them improve together. Buying players is a crap shoot by comparison.

    Yet, strangely, see my sig, and now again this year, most pundits predict the team which scored the most goals and gave up the fewest will drop out of the top four. Even more strangely, no one seems to understand that athletes improve up to a certain age--28 or so--then decline. If they did, surely they would understand that Spurs are more likely to improve than decline. The reasoning weighs buying in the transfer window and, perhaps, the fond belief that Spurs ought to decline in order to restore the natural order of things more heavily.
     
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  12. Roo

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    Top 6 PL
    City, Chelsea, United, Spurs, Arsenal, Liverpool.

    FA Cup
    United

    Champions League
    RM

    League Cup
    Liverpool

    UEFA cup
    Inter

    Relegation from PL
    Watford, Huddersfield, Brighton

    Top goal scorer
    Kane

    Player of the year
    De Bruyne

    Young player of the year
    Dele

    Surprise Team
    West Brom
     
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  13. SpursDisciple

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    Guys, surely putting the teams "in order" is the point of this. Guessing the top 6 but not in this order is simple. Alright we have to decide if Everton will get in and if so instead of who, otherwise it's a simple prediction.
     
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  14. Spurf

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    You don't have to very bright to be a football pundit. Ex footballers have spent their adult life conforming to team rules suppressing any ability to think for themselves. If you want individual thinking then not606 is a better bet than a media that thrives on conformity and appealing to the most common denominator.
     
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    Done <ok>
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Man ure
    Man €ITY
    SPURS
    CHELSKI
    GOONS
    MOUSERS

    Fa cup spurs
    League cup chelski
    Champs league real Madrid
    Europa inter

    Relegation Swansea Huddersfield Brighton

    Top g/scorer kane
    Player of the year dele
    Young player 40 winks
    Surprise team Bournemouth (defoe second top scorer behind our harry)
     
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  18. The RDBD

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    If any of our posters had written what McNumpty had written I would not be impressed so I am even less impressed when someone who writes about football for a living shows such a lack of imagination. Spurs will come 6th but I may be wrong. Just **** off McDumbo you are a bore.
     
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