Off Topic NOT606 QPR 2017 GRAND NATIONAL SWEEPSTAKE

Thanks a lot for the offer but I would rather the remaining 6 horses were taken by posters on here if possible. Thanks very much for the offer Saints.

 

I'll take a horse, Fing, if there's a three legged one left. Sporting bet, I don't drink, so good Irish Whisky would be wasted on me!

 

Doing the draw as we speak. Will post everybody's horse in about 15 minutes.

 

Seems cruel on the postman. Easier just to let us know which one we have.

 

Post number one on the thread contains the details of the draw. I included Ellers, Aussie, Kingdom, Ciarrai and Staines even though they didn't request horses just to fill up the field. RTID and Tooting have drawn the two favourites and Norway and Watford got the complete outsiders at 100/1.

Enjoy the race lads.

 

Is Cocktails at Dawn a rocking horse?

 

Stick a fiver each way on it. If it wins at 100/1, you will be doing cartwheels at dawn

 

Thanks for including me Fingy

 

50/1 shot, I'll take that. Thanks Finglas.

 

Great idea and well done!

 

Eat your heart out Saints Alive...

 

Fingys reply,

"You didn't get one Durbar as I have you on ignore. That is what happens if you insult people and make stupid allegations. You can't have jam on both sides of your bread"

Fing thinks correcting a fact is insulting.

 

You can have jam on both sides anyway. You'd also have the bonus of licking jam off your fingers.

 

...Very happy with my horse thanks Sooper, 16/1 fifth favourite...


Edit....oh I see, you've got Saint Are!...

 

Thank you Fingy. "Just a par"..actually hits a big note in my life at moment......it is such a coincidence I am thinking to put some money on the nag.

Am feeling it is a sign

 

Thanks for my selection, a 3 star rating with 50/1 odds - hopefully Aintree isn't a jump too far.

Lucky #3, good odds for a pound each way.

3. SHANTOU FLYER (IRE), 7, 11-5, Rebecca Curtis (156) *** 50/1
Stays 3m but yet to tackle extreme distances; likes good ground or softer.

Interesting how some of the more favoured horses have a lower star rating.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/racing/2...7-runners-riders-aintree-race-horses-jockeys/

Full list of runners and riders
A maximum of 40 horses will race. All horses are British unless stated

All the entries have a Telegraph star rating, which reflects their chance based on previous form and suitability to the race. The horse with the best chance has five stars and those with the worst have one star.

Horse, age, weight, trainer & rating

1. THE LAST SAMURI (IRE), 9, 11-10, Kim Bailey (161) **** 14/1
Excellent second a year ago and looks even better this year; looks sure to make another bold bid.

2. MORE OF THAT (IRE), 9, 11-6, Jonjo O'Neill (157) ** 12/1
Fair sixth in Cheltenham Gold Cup last time and has touch of class; better since fitted with cheekpieces.

3. SHANTOU FLYER (IRE), 7, 11-5, Rebecca Curtis (156) *** 50/1
Stays 3m but yet to tackle extreme distances; likes good ground or softer.

4. PERFECT CANDIDATE (IRE), 10, 11-5, Fergal O'Brien (156) ** 50/1
Often front runs; stays and jumps well and acts on any going.

5. SAPHIR DU RHEU (FR), 8, 11-5, Paul Nicholls (156) **** 16/1
In good form this season and ran his best race for years when fifth in Gold Cup; has not fallen since 2014.

6. ROI DES FRANCS (FR), 8, 11-3, Gordon Elliott (154) * 50/1
Stays well and showed benefit of blinkers first time when winning comfortably on latest outing.

7. WOUNDED WARRIOR (IRE), 8, 11-2, Noel Meade (153) * 50/1
Consistent and capable stayer but not a prolific winner; good jumper and should get around.

8. WONDERFUL CHARM (FR), 9, 11-2, Paul Nicholls (153) ** 40/1
Has had his enthusiasm rekindled in hunter chases; ran right up to best when second at Cheltenham last time; best on good ground.


9. TENOR NIVERNAIS (FR), 10, 11-1, Venetia Williams (152) * 40/1
Useful on his day and likes to race up with pace, which could well add to his stamina issues.

10. BLAKLION, 8, 11-1, Nigel Twiston-Davies (152) **** 12/1
Classy and holds his form well. Ran a fine race when second in Haydock’s Grand National Trial. Likes fast ground.

11. DROP OUT JOE, 9, 11-1, Charlie Longsdon (152) *** 50/1
Has only run 12 times in past 3 years so has had injury issues but definitely has ability; good ground is best.

12. LE MERCUREY (FR), 7, 11-0, Paul Nicholls (151) * 40/1
Fair performer but does not win often and stamina has to be taken on trust.

13. THE YOUNG MASTER, 8, 10-13, Neil Mulholland (150) ** 16/1
Won Bet365 Gold Cup last spring so stamina not an issue. Out of form since, including when falling 2 out here in December; showed a bit more last time.

14. CAUSE OF CAUSES (USA), 9, 10-13, Gordon Elliott (150) *** 14/1
Looks a likely type and won nicely over Cheltenham’s Cross Country track last time; stamina not an issue and ground should suit.

15. REGAL ENCORE (IRE), 9, 10-13, Anthony Honeyball (150) ** 50/1
Inconsistent but capable on a going day; best form on fast ground.

16. VIEUX LION ROUGE (FR), 8, 10-12, David Pipe (149) **** 10/1
Proven over the fences and this tough stayer, who appears to act on most types on gound, must be respected.

17. DEFINITLY RED (IRE), 8, 10-12, Brian Ellison (149) *** 10/1
Generally progressive and we have probably yet to see the best of him; impressive when beating The Last Samuri at Doncaster; strong player.


18. UCELLO CONTI (FR), (27), 9, 10-12, Gordon Elliott (149) ** 16/1
Fair performer but has not won since moving to Ireland and not since 2014 in France; 6th a year ago and aimed at this since.

19. DOUBLE SHUFFLE (IRE), 7, 10-12, Tom George (149) ** 40/1
On the upgrade and a likeable sort; acts on any ground; looks capable of playing his part.

20. HOUBLON DES OBEAUX (FR), 10, 10-12, Venetia Williams (149) * 40/1
Smart chaser once but age is catching up with him; fourth in last year’s Midlands Grand National at Uttoxeter.

21. PLEASANT COMPANY (IRE), 9, 10-12, W. P. Mullins (149) *** 16/1
Improving and looks to have been targeted at this race; a solid jumper who seems to go on any ground.

22. ONE FOR ARTHUR (IRE), 8, 10-11, Lucinda Russell (148) *** 14/1
Third to Vieux Lion Rouge here in December and then won over 3m 5f at Warwick when wearing a tongue tie for the first time.

23. BALLYNAGOUR (IRE), (70), 11, 10-11, David Pipe (148) * 66/1
Was once smart but is hard to predict these days. Unseated rider at 19th fence last year.

24. O'FAOLAINS BOY (IRE), 10, 10-11, Rebecca Curtis (148) * 66/1
Appears to have lost his way this season and has in fact not won since December 2015; hard to fancy.

25. HIGHLAND LODGE (IRE), 11, 10-11, James Moffatt (148) *** 25/1
Has a good record over the fences in three attempts with form figures of 812 and this has been his target all season; bold show expected.


26. BISHOPS ROAD (IRE), 9, 10-10, Kerry Lee (147) * 50/1
Fair performer but has become prone to jumping mistakes and came down at the first over these fences at last year’s meeting.

27. LORD WINDERMERE (IRE), 11, 10-10, Jim Culloty (147) * 50/1
Won 2014 Cheltenham Gold Cup but is on the downgrade these days. Got as far as the 24th fence two years ago before pulling up.

28. SAINT ARE (FR), 11, 10-10, Tom George (147) ** 33/1
Finished second two years ago but has failed to finish on past two attempts over the fences. Looked close to best when second last time.

29. VICENTE (FR), (49), 8, 10-10, Paul Nicholls (147) *** 20/1
Won 2016 Scottish Grand National but disappointing since. However, his record suggests he is a spring horse and he could easily bounce back.

30. JUST A PAR (IRE), 10, 10-9, Paul Nicholls (146) ** 33/1
Finished 15th when a 40/1 chance in last year’s race. Returned to form at Newbury recently; good jumper.

31. MEASUREOFMYDREAMS (IRE), 9, 10-9, Noel Meade (146) ** 40/1
Favourite when an early faller in 2016 Scottish Grand National; lightly-raced this season and ran with some promise at Cheltenham last time.

32. RAZ DE MAREE (FR), 12, 10-9, Gavin Patrick Cromwell (146) *** 33/1
Finished 8th in 2014 National but improved since; has twice won Cork Grand National and finished second in Welsh National last December; solid stayer.

33. STELLAR NOTION (IRE), 9, 10-9, Henry de Bromhead (146) * 50/1
Normally races at short of 3m and has yet to prove he has the stamina for a contest such as this.Best on decent ground.


34. ROGUE ANGEL (IRE), 9, 10-8, M. F. Morris (145) ** 33/1
A brave winner of 2016 Irish Grand National; well behind Vieux Lion Rouge here in December and might need softer ground.

35. COCKTAILS AT DAWN, 9, 10-8, Nicky Henderson (145) * 100/1
Has a very patchy profile and fell in last year’s Topham (2m 5f) over the fences; unproven in stamina department.

36. THUNDER AND ROSES (IRE), 9, 10-7, M. F. Morris (144) ** 33/1
Has not won since landing the 2015 Irish Grand National although has run some fair races. Best with some give in the ground.

37. GAS LINE BOY (IRE), 11, 10-7, Ian Williams (144) * 66/1
Fell at the first when a 66/1 chance in 2015. Relatively consistent and stays well enough. Enjoys decent going.

38. GOODTOKNOW, 9, 10-7, Kerry Lee (144) ** 66/1
Stays well but is an in-an-out-perofmer who tends to throw in a really poor run from time to time. Seems to act on any going.

39. LA VATICANE (FR), 8, 10-6, David Pipe (143) * 100/1
Has twice got around over these fences but in much shorter races and stamina has to be an issue.

40. DOCTOR HARPER (IRE), 9, 10-6, David Pipe (143) ** 66/1
Capable handicapper but a rare winner these days. All types of ground seem to suit..

Place your bet on the Grand National here >>

RESERVES:

DOCTOR HARPER (IRE), 9, 10-6, David Pipe (143) 66/1

BLESS THE WINGS (IRE), 12, 10-5, Gordon Elliott (142) 50/1


KNOCK HOUSE (IRE), 8, 10-3, Donald McCain (141) 66/1

SAMBREMONT, 7, 10-2, W. P. Mullins (139) 66/1

 

Double Shuffle eh,cheers fingy. Not too sure about that one's chances, I've had a decent investment on Blaklion at 20/1 a few weeks back !

 

Cheers fin, just read up on my horse Le Mercury & it mentioned stamina so on that I might leave the betting alone.

 

Having read kilbs post I probably won't be backing my horse

 

Cheers Fin for Thunder and Roses. Think I might need some THUNDER at Aintree tomorrow as he likes it soft.