Luke Shaw

He said he vows to stay at Manchester United and regain his place in the team, I hope he stays with us for many years to come, he has the potential to be the best left-back in the world but first of all, he has to win his place back in the team and start performing -

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/apr/05/luke-shaw-manchester-united-jose-mourinho

 

The problem we had with the lad was, when he wasn't playing, he didn't look after himself. He eats fast food crap, and seems to have other teenage habits. So if Jose wants to keep this bad cop routine with him, it will end in a manner that suits neither party, of that I have no doubt.

 

That would be a shame if he leaves. Even Shaw at 80% is better than most other options that we have. Jose needs to stop jabbing him and just support the guy.

 

He always had an arm around him here, he required a lot of attention, but when we got him on the pitch he was very good. Still hope he does well, we get £4M if he does!

 

Typical Mourinho to pick on a low maintenance young player to assert some authority. Shaw comes across as a good guy and a good player. Just let him get on with it rather than all this crap about having to control what he does on the pitch.

 

All very good, very old school 'give the lad a chance', but sadly, football today has become a multi-zillion dollar global business and, outside of the stadiums, the top teams in Europe are fighting for a share in the massive global commercial market place. Performances on the field can help secure partnerships, eight-figure sponsorships, merchandising tie-ins and all the rest of the frenzied commercial activity that now drives the business model for the top ten clubs in the world. Like it or not, we are a big part of that and we lead the way in creating ground-breaking revenue streams that even some of the clubs above us in the PL could only dream of.

That financial imperative means that there is little time for clubs to develop players - they have to make an impact and maintain a high standard - or they are out. We cannot afford to have a player like Shaw buzzing in and out of the team with dips in form or injury setbacks forcing JM to re-jig the left side of the team for when he is/isn't in the side. As nice as it might be to see him hit a run of form and flourish in the side, his inconsistency and lifestyle issues mean that isn't likely to happen. JM will either have to have absolute faith in his ability and commitment or he will ship him out and get in a replacement. The cycle of change goes on, time and money wait for no man.

 

Not even sure of the point you are trying to make with that ramble, but my suggestion would be, don't buy promising 17 year olds in the future if you don't the the patience to develop them any further.

 

The point is that smaller , less competitive teams, might have the time to pander to the whims of players who need arms around the shoulders. Clubs like this do not - success is everything and poor performances can cost us tens of millions at the end of the season. If that is what Shaw needs - he has to move on. We don't have the time.

 

Rubbish. All the best teams have had players who needed to be managed in different ways. Shaw is a young and very talented player who, like Rashford and others, is being picked on as an easy target. Would Mourinho dare to call out Pogba in the same way despite being ****ing useless half the time? Not a chance.

 

You cannot class Pogba and Shaw together. Shaw was a promising defender, he was brought in because of that promise but, for whatever number of reasons, he has failed to live up to expectation. Success demands that he moves on and we buy a replacement. This is the nature of the game today, Shaw will go on to be a 'success' at a club like Everton - but we don't have the time to wait and see...............other clubs might. Pogba on the other hand has fulfilled his early promise at Juventus and is simply adapting to the PL. Two completely different situations.

 

Misses the point entirely. Shaw probably is good enough but his ability isn't the point. It's Mourinho dick waving by showing how tough he is in front of relatively junior players who won't risk causing problems. Plenty of players have performed worse than Shaw but they won't get the same treatment.

 

Clearly you are privy to the inner workings of Carrington and have some insight that I do not. I take the view that there is clearly a reason why JM is dealing with things in such a public way. In truth we could perhaps make it to the end of the season using Blind, Rojo or Darmian..... but for some reason - a reason that only the club will actually know about, Shaw has become a major problem. JM could have kept quiet, waited for the end of the season and shipped him out - my personal guess is that JM desperately wants Shaw to stay and is doing what is doing now because he is exasperated at a lack of response from the player who seems intent on putting more energy to his life outside football than he is in building a career in the top flight.

 

You don't need the inside line to see what Mourinho is doing. He cracks the whip and it normally gets short term success. At Chelsea he picked on the wrong people and came unstuck.

Shaw comes across as quite a grounded guy for someone who commanded a £30m fee at his age rather than what you imply.

 

Maureen is a complete ****, simple as, profesionally at least

Most on here would agree bar the deluded
@Matth_2014 @glazerfodder

 

On what do you base the assertion that 'most on here would agree' - complete rubbish. Ferguson retired at the end of the 2012/13 campaign and since 'slapper' Moyes came in and dismantled the entire backroom structure the club has been sliding further down the PL table - and worse still, particularly under LvG, playing some of the worst football in the history of the club. Stevie Wonder could see the work that JM has done - and still has to do, both in terms of the playing squad and rebuilding the club behind the scenes. If anyone expected that to happen in the space of one season they are simply deluded - it could never be done.

He has kept faith with some of the youngsters - not as many as some would like, but this first season was all about consolidation, stopping the rot and from that standpoint he must be judged a success. We already have some silverware, we're still in with a slim shout of a top 4 spot and we still have a tilt at the Europa league. For a club like ours that is crap, but for a club as it was from 2013 until JM came in at the beginning of the season it is not too shabby and most can see the improvement. A few astute purchases in the summer and a good pre-season without any tournament football and the club should be fighting fir for a proper campaign next season.

 

None of which justifies him being a moody cock and picking on young players in public.

 

tl;dr

 

Not sure what Luke Shaw earns but I would guess it's upwards if £75k a week.

If he's a lazy ****, he's a lazy ****, regardless of the poor dear being young. His age is no excuse for not earning his wages and it's baffling that you seem to be hinting that it is.

Bullied? For the money he's on he should be working his knackers off all day, every day, and it's pretty clear that he isn't.

If bollocking him in public is the last throw of the dice to get him to pull his finger out then so be it, he gets zero sympathy from me or any United supporter worthy of the name.

 

Simply put, I think Mourinho needs to develop a different approach. It's the basis of good man management as different people are motivated by different things. Clearly the approach so far hasnt worked for Shaw so time to try something else.

There's no doubt that Shaw was on the cusp of something great 18 months ago. He was playing very well. In theory the only thing we should be worried about is if the injury has affected him. If not the potential is still there.

 

I think by giving him a public bollocking and then sticking him on for the next two consecutive matches constitutes something of a change in approach.