Lens "When Sunderland are down we will be able to transfer more easily here."

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  1. Brian Creampie

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    Reports: Jeremain Lens hopes Sunderland are relegated; And casts doubt over January sale
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    Sunderland winger Jeremain Lens, who is on loan at Turkish outfit Fenerbahçe, has tonight suggested that he hopes his parent club are relegated this season. The reason? To make his life easier; but do his comments cast doubt over January sale rumours?
    by James Henchard@MrHenchard Jan 11, 2017, 10:08pm GMT TWEET


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    Jeremain Lens Says He Hopes Sunderland Are Relegated For His Sake
    Sunderland winger Jeremain Lens, who is currently on loan at Turkish outfit Fenerbahçe, has suggested his parent club succumbing to the drop this season will make his own life easier.

    And reports in Turkey, spread throughout various outlets this evening, have been revelling in the suggestion that their hero is hoping Sunderland will be relegated in order to make his switch a permanent one.

    But with a widespread assumption that his sale in the current window will fund some much-needed transfer activity this month - do his comments now cast doubt over that?

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    Speaking on Turkish TV, the Dutchman reiterated his desire to stay with the Istanbul outfit and suggested that Sunderland dropping into the Championship will enable that to happen much more easily.

    Asked again if he would like to remain with Fenerbahçe, the 29-year-old said:

    It's not up to me, I would. I'm here for a great club. I am happy to play here. I want to stay here for may years.

    But this line may ruffle a few feathers amongst the Wearside faithful, coming from a player who showed such minimal desire to represent the club, for whom he signed in the summer of 2015, during his spell here:

    When Sunderland are down we will be able to transfer more easily here.

    With the Black Cats languishing in the bottom three, Lens' comments will rankle and are ill advised at worst. But they do appear to confirm earlier suggestions that the Dutchman's deal at the Stadium of Light contains a favourable release clause should David Moyes' side be relegated.

    His comments also challenge the current suggestion that Sunderland are likely to cash in the player during this transfer window to raise funds for some much needed acquisitions of their own. If Lens is banking on Moyes failing to keep his side up this season to engineer a permanent move, whatever happened to talk that a deal is imminent between the two clubs in order to raise cash for incoming reinforcements at the Stadium of Light?

    The player and his representatives have upped the ante in recent weeks as they seek to engineer a favourable exit from his current contract at Sunderland. Earlier this week, the player's father was even roped in to publicly proclaim that a prolonged stay in Istanbul would be in his son's best interests, and that he would make his own representations to David Moyes if necessary. Lens-senior said:

    I want Jeremain to stay in Istanbul and continue playing for Fenerbahçe. If necessary, I will personally endeavour to talk with Sunderland's manager.

    If observers had assumed that the Dutch winger would be content to depart his English failure with a modicum of diplomacy and dignity, his continued outbursts colour his exit somewhat. Set against a backdrop of the player finding his way back to some form and earning a recall to the Netherlands national set-up, Jeremain Lens does not appear to be content merely to let his football do the talking.

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    Reports in Turkey this week have suggested that Dick Advocaat's outfit have made an offer of four million euros to make Lens' stay with him a permanent one. Sunderland are said to have rejected that bid - insisting they value the player at double that figure, and certainly nearer the eight million pounds that the veteran coach paid for the player when he signed him from Dynamo Kiev eighteen months ago.

    In truth, Jeremain Lens never endeared himself to Sunderland fans or management. He was axed from the first team by a furious Sam Allardyce for refusing to take part in a post-match workout last season. The winger was also fined two weeks' wages for his display of indiscipline.

    Rumours abounded that the coaching staff at the Stadium of Light had grown increasingly exasperated with the player, and his muted goal celebrations at Watford during the final game of last season hinted that the relationship between the player, his manager and the club had all but broken down.

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    And when he finally departed to reunite with Advocaat last summer, Lens lashed out at his employers in an interview with Fox Sports saying:

    Sunderland would just love to get rid of me. I did not play, was not even on the bench. I just had a problem with the club. What? No idea.

    Supporters and casual observers can well be forgiven for wondering what exactly Jeremain Lens' problem is, rather than vice-versa.


    **** the ****.








    Needless to say he's being launched into <laugh>
     
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  2. Nostalgic

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    He was a Dick signing with a dick attitude.
     
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    [email protected] horrible bastard. I hope some dirty Turks kidnap him, gang rape him and send him over to Syria.
     
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    And rightly so, arrogant little prick.

    I hope we sell him before he breaks his legs though.
     
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    Wow. What a prick.
     
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    I've been championing that ****er on here lately.

    He can **** right off now. We should be getting in touch with Fenerbache first thing and telling them to pay 10m or send the ****er straight back to make him rot in the reserves.

    ****ing arsehole.



    On a side note, that comment about finding a lump is ****ing hideous. It's worse than what Lens has done.
     
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    The sick get, how/why the frig did he come here ? I might complain but i will die a Sunderland supporter and be proud of it. But what happens if he comes back ? hoho that will be fun.
     
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  8. The Norton Cat

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    If Dick Advocaat can get the best out of him, why can't anyone else? No matter what his attitude, he is still a talented player who would have improved us and who represents a large financial investment. It seems to me, it would have been worth the while of the management to try and address his attitude and issues and work with him Like Advocaat can. I've no idea to what extent this happened but it seems to me that little effort was made in that respect.
     
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  9. Tel

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    It happens with plenty of players mate, just look at Balotelli, once they get what they want then they will play.

    It's not as simple as an arm around his shoulder and saying 'there there', he can make all the inferences he wants about not knowing why he wasn't getting a game, but managers don't leave out players performing at the top of their game, they just don't.
     
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    get him back
    Make him adhere to his contract
    Let him rot with no game time place him on the reserve bench
     
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  11. Tel

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    The Turks are probably paying his wages, and have probably given you a fee for the season.

    Even if it was possible to get him back it could put you over the FFP restrictions... that'll show him ey <ok>
     
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    He's a ****ehawk imo.
     
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    Whatever happens he will not kick a ball again for us
     
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    A player who I have often said I wanted back - amazing what these people say to the press -

    Place brain in gear - remove gearbox, remove brain, start speaking!! **** him - hope he picks up a career threatening injury (although not as bad as the "lump on his balls" from twitter!!)
     
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    Not to defend him but was this said in English or translated? I've no issue with him being happy on loan as he's getting gametime, the line of contention is:

    When Sunderland are down we will be able to transfer more easily here

    With a tweak or two it could have been an acceptable sentiment and was just wondering if these are his actual words or if a helpful journalist has kindly translated it for him.
     
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    Oh yeah, there are plenty of stroppy little primadonnas about and you can't let them hold you to ransom. The thing is, a similar thing seems to be happening with Khazri now and this failure to get the best out of flair players seems to be becoming a recurring theme at Sunderland. Because it seems to me it happens so much I begin to start questioning if its not always the players in question who are at fault.
     
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    It also makes the injuries situation worse. When you get thin on the ground having players like Lens and Khazri not playing for you exacerbates the situation. I think it mostly comes down to changes of managers they were signed by Dick and Sam and don't seem to fit Moyes. The same seemed to happen to Giacc.
     
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    I was wondering about something perhaps being lost in translation.

    When Sunderland are down we will be able to transfer more easily here

    That line is merely suggesting relegation is inevitable not exactly hoping we are. Not that the journos would give it any kind of twist of course.

    On a side not the club are rejecting offers for players? That`s a novelty on its own.
     
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  19. The Norton Cat

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    Yeah, that probably is the reason to be honest. I still find at strange that certain players/managers find it difficult to work together though. Matt le Tissier, for example, was a lazy sod who never wanted to defend yet I don't remember him ever having any major problems with any Southampton manager.
     
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    Any manager is going to want his own squad really, this mess you're in seems to be the results of a DOF style model, and you've even chopped and changed that as well.

    Allardyce was in full control it seemed, and he'd have probably built a good side if he hadn't ended up leaving for England.
     
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