Leicester v the Tangerine growers

Short for Hispanic isn't it. Mexico, Puerto Rico and that lot.

Stu's a ****ing **** Norwich fan. Not even sure why he's here.

 

If you use the term in the US where it comes from it's the same insult as using the English "N" word.
Be warned as you'll get smacked for doing so there in public.

 

If you called a Chinese person a spic you'd get laughed at not punched.

It's not racist if it's completely misused. It's misguided and insensitive, very daft but not racist.

Of he'd been referring to Hispanics and spics it would have been pretty bad. He wasn't. End product isn't the same because of its misuse.

 

What name doe Stu go by these days ?

 

Intent is the issue. Context can help but if people are thick and don't use it appropriately, it doesn't change the intent.

 

I disagree completely mate. There's a reason these terms are offensive. Due to hisrory, appearance, orientation, so on and so forth. If you take that reason out of the insult it stops being insulting and just becomes a bit bizarre.

I really don't like racism. I've been outspoken on here once or twice because my dislike roe it can make me look quite PC at times.

I jusrt don't see that as racist. I see it as pretty stupid, but not racist.

 

I'm just messing mate, nobody takes him seriously anyway.

 

So if you called a Turkish bloke a Paki would you expect him to laugh at you or cut your head off?

There's a lot more examples I could use, but you get the point from that one, so no need for a list.

The terms used, are constantly evolving to incorporate different ethnicities and it's not the word itself that would cause the offence, it's the fact that you've directed it towards the target with the sole intention of degrading them as a human, using a factor that is out of their control.

 

He's Turkish. Going off our recent history in Turkey. I'd expect him to stab me if I offered to pay for him to go on holiday.

I just don't see it to be honest unless there's meaning to it; for instance calling a Turk a Greek or calling a homophobe a bumboy.

If it's a slur on an attribute belonging to a person I get it, if it's a slur on an attribute that the person strongly stands against I get it.

When it's just plain wrong I just don't really get it to be honest.

 

OK, I apologise for saying it if it's upset some arsehole who loves to be offended.
Where do you draw the line in the sand then?
Because I don't know anymore.
Just a question I'll throw open to you all.
In your opinions is Jock, Paddy, Taffy, Wop, Limey, Honkey, Pom, Frog, Eyetie, Aussie, Abo, Yankee offensive/racist?
I could go on & on. Who among you find those terms offensive?
Something is only offensive if you're offended by it & some people love to be offended.
If a black man called me a honkey it would not bother me one jot.
Infact, I'd probably laugh.
No way is the word spick racist, I'm not having it.

 

You can disagree but you're wrong. The use of any racist term with intent is racist. Whether incorrectly applied or not.

 

I don't find any of them offensive as such. I come across two often though.

I find pom annoying as I hear it often. I was given a name for a reason, I'd rather people used that than some stupid, outdated label that just shows no respect.

Abo is a bit of a disgrace really. The people have been wiped off the earth, their culture has been erased. We tried to breed the black out of them for God's sake. We gave them syphilis and experimented treating it by pumping them full of mercury.

We committed a genocide while we called them abo's. As such it's got a horrendous history to the term. It's a reminder that they're supposedly inferior and not worth a space in their own land.

 

Well nobody's going to ascertain what sort of things offend a person before choosing which insult to call them

Hey, what's your opinions on people from Scotland?

Oh I love people from Scotland.

Damn, I was gonna call you a dirty jock.

It's the intent imo.

 

Does he ?
'We' did on the thread that I think you're referring to

 

Yes, I quite agree.
More or less what happened to the red indians in Canada & the USA.

 

Not always the case but I can see why you think that.

I am not offended if somebody makes jokes about the Holocaust.

I would be offended if somebody made a joke about the Holocaust in front of my wife.

If that person was Jewish and made the same joke in front of my wife, I'd not be offended.

If that person was Abu Hamzah and telling jokes about the holocaust in front of strangers, I'd be inclined to defend them.

See how different it can be, the subject is the same every time, but the environment plays a big part.

 

'We'?

I had nowt to do with it pal.

 

Puffs getting all offended again.

 

Incorrect usage of a term or applying it to people from a different race just shows deeper ignorance to be honest. There is an element of "yeah ok but you're all the same really" which surely is xenophobic or racist if the initial intent was to cause offence (I disagree that someone has to be offended, if you make a comment which is likely to cause offence then it's offensive in my book. If the person you make it to happens to be thick skinned and shrugs it off it doesn't make it 'not offensive', to me that's just a way of blaming the person for getting offended rather than the person who said it),

On a personal note people would struggle to find anything to say to me which actually offends me. That doesn't mean I wouldn't think less of them for trying.

 

**** off, you black & white bastard !