1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Jermain Defoe: England Recall

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Jack TheLad, Mar 16, 2017.

  1. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    7,845
    Likes Received:
    709
    nobody in particular tel i just cannot see the point the reason yes,how is this helping the future though.
     
    #21
  2. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    7,441
    Likes Received:
    7,009
    Its not. It's sorting out a short term problem. That's all.
    Don't over-think it.
     
    #22
  3. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    7,845
    Likes Received:
    709
    waste of an opportunity, the fa are certainly not over thinking,,if he gets injured thats a double whammy from the fa to safc.if there is npbody else its fu###d
     
    #23
  4. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,443
    Likes Received:
    55,696
    It's not helping the future, but that's not the only priority.

    The future is Kane & Rashford, so having a bit of experience to aid them won't do any harm.
     
    #24
  5. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    7,441
    Likes Received:
    7,009
    They don't give a monkey's about clubs, especially the smaller ones.

    We're playing Germany and we're short on strikers. We don't want to be humiliated just before a major qualifier.

    I fully understand their thinking.
     
    #25
  6. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,477
    Likes Received:
    25,492
    Best English striker in the PL available at present - if the England team have a half chance and you have an option of Defoe or some kid who's got no experience, would you rather have Defoe on the end of it or the young kid? It's about the games coming up and nothing more and so it should be
     
    #26
  7. password invalid

    password invalid Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2012
    Messages:
    7,845
    Likes Received:
    709
    Not argu
    Not arguing about that aspect at all marcus , i personally would give a youngster some experience,all about opinions
     
    #27
  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,443
    Likes Received:
    55,696
    Chances are a youngster isn't going to get on the pitch, so the experience would be just getting a feel of the England camp.

    Defoe could offer something, to Rashford for example... point out things that maybe the lad can improve on, Defoe's a completely different type of striker to Zlatan so Rashford could develop his game alongside him.

    There's benefits of having experience in any squad, not just putting the ball in the net.
     
    #28
  9. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,477
    Likes Received:
    25,492
    You can;t sign him... He's ours..... :)

    Agree mind!
     
    #29
  10. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,443
    Likes Received:
    55,696
    Where do I start with that? <laugh>
     
    #30
    marcusblackcat likes this.

  11. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,477
    Likes Received:
    25,492
    <laugh> Zlatan could learn from him....
     
    #31
  12. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,443
    Likes Received:
    55,696
    The only thing Zlatan could learn from him is where to buy diamond earrings from.
     
    #32
    Gil T Azell and marcusblackcat like this.
  13. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    25,477
    Likes Received:
    25,492
    Mlaugh> If someone said that 2 of the top scorers in the league by this time of year would have a combined age of nearly 70 people would've laughed!

    Both class - love watching both play
     
    #33
  14. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    61,443
    Likes Received:
    55,696
    26 goals and 9 assists from the big man for us, apparently he wants 2 more years and we're stuttering over the deal, wanting to take it year by year... just give the bloke the 2 years I say, like Neville says, even if his legs go in the 3rd season, players like that in the dressing room are priceless.

    Defoe's maturity on the pitch has made him improve imo, he's always been clinical but he knows when to go and when to hold now, very clever player. Enjoy his last few games for you, I reckon he's off this summer no matter what you lot do.
     
    #34
    Billy Death likes this.
  15. cumbrianmackem

    cumbrianmackem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    8,921
    Likes Received:
    24,354
    See BSA is saying how pleased he is that Defoe has been called up, pity he didn't call the lad up when he was the England manager for all his games in charge....well for one game anyway.....tit.
     
    #35
  16. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,680
    Likes Received:
    43,040
    Being cynical here but has Southgate picked him due to young Bradley being the mascot?

    I hope he has picked JD on merit but as stated earlier there is no mileage in this whatsoever.
     
    #36
  17. Burly Hurley

    Burly Hurley Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2016
    Messages:
    7,441
    Likes Received:
    7,009
    Its just a short term call Gil.

    No more than that.
     
    #37
    Gil T Azell likes this.
  18. polyphemus

    polyphemus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,788
    Likes Received:
    3,440

    Time was that the England Team was picked entirely on current form, (by a selection Committee).
    It goes without saying that this didn't work.
    Then Alf Ramsay got the job and he had a plan that involved a settled squad, gradually introducing
    maturing players.

    Then gradually the system changed to be permanently on the look out for Youth.
    Young players had to be 'brought on''.
    Laudable in it's way but we tended to win qualifying games and lose tournaments with teams brimming with inexperience.

    The expression USED to be, 'if they are good enough, being young doesn't matter'.

    Shouldn't the same be said about being (relatively) old?
     
    #38
    Gordon Armstrong and Gil T Azell like this.
  19. Gil T Azell

    Gil T Azell Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 25, 2011
    Messages:
    18,680
    Likes Received:
    43,040
    If ya good enough you should be in regardless.
     
    #39

Share This Page