Is Rooney a Man Utd legend?

Was listening to the 606 moan-in and when Robbie Savage proclaimed that Rooney is a Man Utd legend now, a lot of your fans called in to say that he was chatting ****.

Isn't he? He has scored the most goals ever in your history and that record will probably never be broken - doesn't that at least give him a few brownie points?

For me as a armchair Utd fan, I say he is - whether or not if he has lost his touch and if he is good enough now to play for you is another matter.

 

Does the 250 goals make him a legend?

Before anyone says I'm a Rooney hater, I'm not. But let me turn the question. Would he get into a United all time 11? Is the record enough to get him into that? Subjective question and he may do for some, but I'm not so sure tbh.

 

Yes, he is

 

Are we only allowed 11 legends?

 

Yes.

 

Nope, but that's not what I'm asking. Are we classing him as a legend because he's scored 250 goals? Or the degree of impact he's had on the club?

I'm not so sure 250 goals is enough to get him into an all-time 11 which for me shows something lacking with him as a player and the impact he's had on the club, that's all.

 

So you are saying that during a period of time in which he has been an ever present, scored the most goals in the history of the club and the team has won many honours, he has had very little impact?

 

I don't see what an all time 11 has to do with anything at all. Considering the hundreds of players and many great players the club has had, the all time eleven is in the end subjective and a matter of opinion.

He definitely wouldn't get in my all time eleven and I'm not sure he'd get in my 2nd eleven.

It's irrelevant really as the fact he's the clubs leading goal scorer and has played a part in five league titles, an FA cup and a champions league means he's definitely a club legend.

 

The whole thing is subjective ffs.

@Diego if he had such an impact then he would get into most people's all-time 11 surely?

And the reason why it's relevant, is because this question is being asked (and the thread created) after he's scored 250 goals and broken the club record. Which implies that this has some bearing on being a club legend. I'm simply asking if that's enough to also put him in people's starting 11? And if not, then the 250 goals shouldn't be enough to make him a legend either.

 

If you had to pick an all time eleven, who would be your left back?

Byrne
Irwin
Evra

Which two aren't allowed to be deemed club legends?

 

Which is off the top of my head.

How about goal keeper?

Schmeichel
Van der Sar
Stepney
De Gea.

I could do this for every position.

 

You're failing to grasp the point Chief.... again

Look at the timing of the thread.

 

No, I'm not.

I genuinely wonder if you're pissed sometimes.

The timing is, he's just broken the all time Manchester United goal scoring record.
Of course it underlines the fact he's a club legend.

The fact he doesn't make your all time eleven is insignificant at best.

 

You really need to clarify THE point.

 

My very next post to that...

It's very simple really. The thread has been started and the OP has used the fact he's scored the most goals to ask the question. I answered the OP by saying that if scoring the most goals (a SINGULAR achievement that no other player can claim) isn't enough to get him into the starting 11 - then maybe there's something lacking. And in that case the 250 goals shouldn't be enough to make him a legend either.

I apologise for questioning it Chief, I should've realised it's not allowed on here.

 

You're the only person that brought this starting eleven nonsense into it.
No one else did.

Which, incidentally, has been answered anyway.

I've done goalie and left back, do I really need to go through the other nine to show you how flawed this non argument is?

Again, what's this point of yours because I'm ****ing baffled?

 

He is a club legend without doubt.

He also wouldn't get into my all time starting 11.

Though I also doubt beckham would and I'd class him as one too. My hero that made me love united was Bryan Robson. I also doubt he'd get into my all time 11. Not even sure I could put together an all time 11. I could do three teams each amazing in their own right.

 

The best 11 is by definition subjective because the players have been playing in different eras. How do you compare a left back who played in the 60s or 70s in a rigid 4-4-2 with a left wing back playing different modern systems? But legends are less so.

Any doubt that Cantona was a legend? He made a massive impact on the club whilst he was here and was the catalyst to our titles. The love and admiration for him by the fans were huge. But would he necessarily get into MY best 11 of all time? Not sure. Probably not. There are many criteria for being a legend.

For me there is no argument, by being the highest United goal scorer of all time, Rooney has earned the right to that title. There can only be one player with that record and it is him. So he's written himself in the history of the club. Despite the various shenanigans associated with him during his period here. And his decline should not affect his status. Do we say that Giggs cannot be a legend because he was poor in the last season with us?

 

Brilliantly put - that you have a lot more history then Leicester for example means that you have a lot of legendary players. That some would make an all time XI over others doesn't lessen their status.

 

100% LEGEND love or hate he will be remembered for ever