Grand National Weights and initial forum reactions

Grand National: as the weights are unveiled
BY RACING POST STAFF 7:50PM 14 FEB 2017
The weights for the £1 million Randox Health Grand National were unveiled on Tuesday evening. Here is the full list.

Numbers 1-10

Number Horse Weight Trainer
1 Outlander 11-10 (166) Gordon Elliott IRE
2 Champagne West 11-09 Henry de Bromhead IRE
3 Empire Of Dirt 11-08 Gordon Elliott IRE
4 Don Poli 11-07 Gordon Elliott IRE
5 Carlingford Lough 11-06 John Kiely IRE
6 The Last Samuri 11-05 Kim Bailey
7 Alary 11-04 Colin Tizzard
8 Alelchi Inois 11-03 Willie Mullins IRE
9 Minella Rocco 11-02 Jonjo O'Neill
10 Devils Bride 11-01 Henry de Bromhead IRE

Numbers 11 - 20

Number Horse Weight Trainer
11 More Of That 11-01 (157) Jonjo O'Neill
12 Lord Scoundrel 11-00 Gordon Elliott IRE
13 Perfect Candidate 11-00 Fergal O'Brien
14 Saphir Du Rheu 11-00 Paul Nicholls
15 Shantou Flyer 11-00 Rebecca Curtis
16 Road To Riches 10-13 Noel Meade IRE
17 Sausalito Sunrise 10-13 Philip Hobbs
18 Carole's Destrier 10-12 Neil Mulholland
19 Clarcam 10-12 Gordon Elliott IRE
20 Foxrock 10-12 Ted Walsh IRE

Numbers 21-30

Number Horse Weight Trainer
21 Roi Des Francs 10-12 (154) Gordon Elliott IRE
22 Wonderful Charm 10-11 Paul Nicholls
23 Wounded Warrior 10-11 Noel Meade IRE
24 Blaklion 10-10 Nigel Twiston-Davies
25 Drop Out Joe 10-10 Charlie Longsdon
26 Tenor Nivernais 10-10 Venetia Williams
27 Tiger Roll 10-10 Gordon Elliott IRE
28 A Toi Phil 10-09 Gordon Elliott IRE
29 Le Mercurey 10-09 Paul Nicholls
30 The Game Changer 10-09 Gordon Elliott IRE

Numbers 31-40

Number Horse Weight Trainer
31 Cause Of Causes 10-08 (150) Gordon Elliott IRE
32 Maggio 10-08 Patrick Griffin IRE
33 Regal Encore 10-08 Anthony Honeyball
34 The Young Master 10-08 Neil Mulholland
35 Definitly Red 10-07 Brian Ellison
36 Double Shuffle 10-07 Tom George
37 Houblon Des Obeaux 10-07 Venetia Williams
38 Pleasant Company 10-07 Willie Mullins IRE
39 Ucello Conti 10-07 Gordon Elliott IRE
40 Vieux Lion Rouge 10-07 David Pipe

Numbers 41-50

Number Horse Weight Trainer
41 Ballynagour 10-06 (148) David Pipe
42 Highland Lodge 10-06 James Moffatt
43 Junction Fourteen 10-06 Emma Lavelle
44 O'Faolains Boy 10-06 Rebecca Curtis
45 One For Arthur 10-06 Lucinda Russell
46 Vivaldi Collonges 10-06 Paul Nicholls
47 Bishops Road 10-05 Kerry Lee
48 Lord Windermere 10-05 Jim Culloty IRE
49 Saint Are 10-05 Tom George
50 Vicente 10-05 Paul Nicholls

Numbers 51- 60

Number Horse Weight Trainer
51 Vics Canvas 10-05 (147) Dermot McLoughlin IRE
52 Ziga Boy 10-05 Alan King
53 Just A Par 10-04 Paul Nicholls
54 Measureofmydreams 10-04 Noel Meade IRE
55 Raz De Maree 10-04 Gavin Cromwell IRE
56 Stellar Notion 10-04 Henry de Bromhead IRE
57 As De Mee 10-03 Paul Nicholls
58 Cocktails At Dawn 10-03 Nicky Henderson
59 Pendra 10-03 Charlie Longsdon
60 Rogue Angel 10-03 Mouse Morris IRE

Numbers 61- 70

Number Horse Weight Trainer
61 Seventh Sky 10-03 (145) Charlie Mann
62 Shutthefrontdoor 10-03 Jonjo O'Neill
63 Gas Line Boy 10-02 Ian Williams
64 Goodtoknow 10-02 Kerry Lee
65 The Romford Pele 10-02 Rebecca Curtis
66 Thunder And Roses 10-02 Mouse Morris IRE
67 Triolo D'Alene 10-02 Nicky Henderson
68 Vieux Morvan 10-02 Isabelle Pacault FR
69 Doctor Harper 10-01 David Pipe
70 Gallant Oscar 10-01 Tony Martin IRE

Numbers 71-80

Number Horse Weight Trainer
71 La Vaticane 10-01 (143) David Pipe
72 Bless The Wings 10-00 Gordon Elliott IRE
73 Tour Des Champs 10-00 Samuel Drinkwater
74 Knock House 9-13 Donald McCain
75 Hadrian's Approach 9-12 Nicky Henderson
76 Benbens 9-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies
77 Potters Cross 9-11 Rebecca Curtis
78 Sambremont 9-11 Willie Mullins IRE
79 Straidnahanna 9-11 Sue Smith
80 Viva Steve 9-11 Fergal O'Brien

Numbers 81-90

Number Horse Weight Trainer
81 Cloudy Too 9-10 (138) Sue Smith
82 Lamb Or Cod 9-10 Philip Hobbs
83 Milansbar 9-10 Neil King
84 Polidam 9-10 Willie Mullins IRE
85 Dromnea 9-09 Mouse Morris IRE
86 Streets Of Promise 9-09 Michael Scudamore
87 Vyta Du Roc 9-09 Nicky Henderson
88 Beeves 9-08 Jennie Candlish
89 Royale Knight 9-08 Dr Richard Newland
90 Alfie Spinner 9-07 Kerry Lee

Numbers 91-100

Number Horse Weight Trainer
91 Emperos's Choice 9-07 (135) Venetia Williams
92 Goulanes 9-07 Neil Mulholland
93 Lessons In Milan 9-07 Nicky Henderson
94 Mountain King 9-07 Gordon Elliott IRE
95 Out Sam 9-07 Warren Greatrex
96 Sizing Coal 9-07 Jim Dreaper IRE
97 Dare To Endeavour 9-06 Eric McNamara IRE
98 Father Edward 9-06 David Pipe
99 Samingarry 9-06 Nigel Hawke
100 Silver Man 9-06 Jo Hughes

Numbers 101-109

Number Horse Weight Trainer
101 Alvarado 9-05 (133) Fergal O'Brien
102 Milborough 9-05 Ian Duncan
103 The Crafty Butcher 9-04 Willie Mullins IRE
104 Waldorf Salad 9-04 Venetia Williams
105 Katenko 9-03 Venetia Williams
106 Federici 9-02 Donald McCain
107 Gone Too Far 9-01 David Pipe
108 Racing Pulse 9-01 Rebecca Curtis
109 Killer Crow 9-00 Gordon Elliott IRE



To return to the GN Mega Thread

 

Elliot has already said Outlander more than likely won't be running

 

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My two picks at the weights and are guaranteed to run (would love to see Don Poli win mindyouas this race seems made for him)

UCELLO CONTI does all his work late on and and his run lto in the Thyestes was pretty good, his run in the Becher proves he handles the fences and looks to be trained for this BLAKLION- jumps well, stays soundly and was impressed with his run behind definitely red - looks to have been given a break and hopefully keep him fresh for this!

 

Number 33 looks well handicapped

 

Rather like his trainer COCKTAILS AT DAWN has got a lovely weight. They were ‘up to’ all sorts last time as they got this horse qualified but must be delighted with the end result. Currently number 58 in the rankings you would imagine he’d get a run no problem. 80/1 is a massive price. Something that I may have said once or twice before re this one and the 2017 GN!

Of the rest Blaklion looks nicely perched (we saw at the weekend old boy Nige oblige with one who had been underestimated by the handicapper. Not beyond the realms of possibiblty that may happen again here). Meanwhile, Wounded Warrior also has the ability to outrun his mark and 66/1 is a massive price for a horse who amongst his form has solid, and I do mean solid, efforts at Graded level.

Meanwhile, I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say our hearts will be with the forum’s favourite Corinthian, the younger Mr Waley-Cohen when the tapes go up. The Young Master is another who you could say has been reasonable treated by the old boy assessor. Nobody rides the course better than the younger Mr Waley-Cohen and I’m sure there wouldn’t be a dry eye on the forum if he obliged, at Aintree, on the second Saturday in April. God bless you, Sir.

 

HIGHLAND LODGE is screaming at me at that price!

 

Foxrock should be sticking out like a sore thumb to everyone given who his trainer is and the races he's been running in recently.

 

Maybe Lord Windermere at 50's

 

Ucello Conti looks to have got a nice weight off 149 only 6lbs higher for finishing second in the Thyestes. That form should work out nicely and Gordon should be able to get a nice bit more out of him for the day. He has always looked like a National horse. Currently 33/1 and would likely be half that price on the day.

 

Raz de Maree wasn't beaten that far by the GC second fav and should appreciate the trip. Is getting on a fair bit mind you...

 

Ha haa Elliott withdrew the top weight just as it was announced shouting a 'That's from Mega Fortune, so **** you Phil Smith'

 

I like the look of Ucello Conti but he doesn't really win many races.

A couple that interest me is Empire of Dirt. Is he likely to run? It has been stated he could be gold cup or Ryanair bound. Looks on the upgrade to me. Any ideas anyone?
Also like the look of O'Faolains Boy for the gorgeous Rebecca Curtis...is due to run on Saturday? I assume he is being trained for the race? I backed him last year but he was withdrawn on the morning of the race apparently lame. He definitely has a lot of class and would stay...the question is does he retain plenty of ability. Anyone have any views on him?

 

Empire OF Dirt is certainly a horse that would give the impression of getting the trip in the National. He lobs along nicely and would see it out well I think. Would have a serious chance if lining up Captain.

 

Cheers Humans...I m not sure if he will run as has quite a bit of weight but I can see him being Cheltenham Gold Cup bound. Elliott is apparently keen on running him. That's quite interesting.... I do like the look of O'Faolains Boy though if Curtis can get him anywhere near back to his best.

 

I see that old boy Pricewise has gone 1 pt each-way, at 33/1, on both More Of That and Foxrock in today’s ‘Racing Post’.

In the same publication Mr Henderson, speaking at the launch event, was very positive about Cocktails At Dawn. There was a free bar at said gathering though so I don’t know if that had some effect on his prose! Upbeat bulletin though.

 

Ask the handicapper at 12.15 today is a must watch on ATR today....imagine if they got O'Leary to call in!

 

O'Leary said won't run so save your money! Only Don Poli a 'possibility'

 

Money saved already Don as I wasn't backing him, definitely not ante post. Merely engaging in conversation