Gonzo's Erection Thread

He will as he will have a programme to appeal to the progressives in French politics as well as the moderate Conservatives. He is a centrist.

 

At least Northern Ireland is a Tory free zone and long may it continue. Just hope the Unionists don't back Madame May too much.

 

there is a new party he is part of. Macron founded en marche last year and if he wins he has called for candidates for this party to run in next years french elections. he was in the socialist party. he even asked online for candidates!

HE will win cos anyone with sense and everyone in cities vote for him.

 

that is not good news !!. It is a bloody disgrace that the 2 major UK wide parties do not put up candidates in NI irrespective of whether they would win. By doing this they
a) ensure one section of the UK cannot vote for the govt of the UK
b) leave NI in the hands of sectarian political parties

imo obviously

 

Lady Hermon who is Independent. Was a Unionist until they tied themselves up with the Tories pre-2010, she often voted with Labour at the time. And is pro-EU. Good politician to support.

 

Indeed, it is one thing for an individual to be elected. It's entirely different to create a brand new party with eligible and electible candidates to win a Parliament.

 

Unfortunately the DUP are basically like traditional Tories who haven't realised it's no longer 1950.

The UUP are a mess.

 

Wilson was very good, but was always dogged with rumours he was a Russian spy and was shagging his secretary. Have my doubts about the former, but Joe Haines, his press secretary, said Wilson had an affair with her in his biography. The BBC repeated this as fact and she sued them and won, she got £75k damages.

In 2015 it came out that as Baroness Falkender, title courtesy of Wilson, she stuck to her left wing principles and only claimed a mere £128,000 for taxi fares for the period 2006 to 2011 for the short journey from her home to the House of Lords to sign in to get her £300 a day allowance.

ZINGY WOULD!!!!!!!!!!!

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Don't think he can now run for Labour leader because he's already contested the leadership twice?

It's all set up for David Milliband to return as the next leader.

 

They're all ****s and we'll get ****ed every way possible regardless so what does it matter...?

 

Well you can either get ****ed gently by the Lib Dems, ****ed by Labour but they'll buy you dinner first, or ****ed Hard by the Tories who'll blame it on Labour and Terrorists and then **** the rest of your family in front of you.

 

i was going for a similar response but yours was both more eloquent yet graphic all at the same time

 

The Cons do but get nowhere. Thankfully. And the SDLP are quite closely allied to Labour and the Alliance have an affiliation with the Lib-Dems. But IMO I think it is good that large parties make little impression in Northern Ireland politics. Imagine the Conservatives getting a seat. It would be very divisive as they are closely allied to the Unionist section of the population.

 

I fo d it funny that
A) marcon founds a party and lookd like einning french presidency
B) trump wins as outsider to become republican candidate.
C) brexit wins.

But these are still not clues to anyone that peopoke are voting aeay from traditional parties in their droves.. theres really no room for some reasonably strong cabal of politicians in lanour to say f you corbyn and run as own party after brexit and at least after that pathetic excuse of a leafership contest.

 

i disagree.
all it does is continue the sectatrian nature of NI politics whilst ensuring the voters there have no say in the full govt of the UK & very soon of the province itself as it slips back to direct rule from Westminster where it will be governed by people no one voted for.

 

What about scotlund.

In scoolund they now have nearly a whitewash of snp.

Perhap like there they reality of ni politics is voters vote for those who do stuff for them.

Conservatives, labour and libs have failed most regions. In fact it seems to me people get exactly what they vote for

 

they still have the option though - in fact all 3 (major) UK wide parties hold seats in scotland. So they can & do vote for parties who form the gov of the UK even if they favour SNP & similar in Wales with Plaid Cymru

 

I'd say one finger nail clawing at the cliff to hold on but yeah they are all holding one single seat.

though i would suppose labour losing 40 odd was more serious a message as could be given to a part who were hoping to actually be in government in 2015.

the tories had one and held one... so i suppose thats a pretty clear choice made there.

for me the scot sent a hell of a messgae to labour last time out... but i have no idea how corbyn has gone down up there

The SNPs problem this time round is how can they actually do better? they can't so may can say they are less relevant even if thier losses are 3/4 seats total.

 

Sisu's mate Putin has been pulling the strings on everything for 18 months now. if not more. An alliance of the unholy. Nine years ago I believed, wrongly, we were entering a post-capitalist era: I forgot the lessons of the 1930's - democracies polarise in troubled times, and the right owns most of the media and information. In the digital age nobody has put to use the harvesting and distribution of dataism as much as Putin, in that though the US and UK may have access to more of it, it is Putin who is directing it in an unrestricted and unfettered way.

The Russians may have lost the Cold War, but they're damn well efficient and effective at winning the Cyber War, and we don't even know we're in it.

 

Frigging hell, how many top politicians had affairs before Clinton was eviscerated by the right wing media- Kennedy, for starters, and FDR too. And Ike was knobbing his (female!) British driver when he was over here. As for Lloyd George...