FAO Huw Jenkins and Martin Morgan

So do I.

 

Swansea City Trust Minutes 2002
Chairman Leigh Dineen – a look forward with the new Board for the next 12 months.

1. the Trust exists for the benefit of it’s Members – it’s YOUR Trust.
2. the Members join because they want to see a thriving and successful football club.
3. our duty as the Board is to create a thriving Trust. That way we get more Members, raise more money and get more influence and control over OUR football club

That's the same Leigh Dineen who sold his shares in the Club to Kaplan and Levein thus ensuring control of Swansea City Football Club is now no longer owned by local fans but by overseas investors with no real interest in SCFC.

 

Swansea City Trust Minutes 2002

1. Chair Leigh Dineen gave a review of the Trust’s first year.

Launched 27th August 2001.
Officially Registered on the 4th October 2001 (Registrar Of Friendly Socs.)

Played a critical role in ousting Tony Petty (with many others)
25th January 2002, we buy the Club as part of the Consortium.

Donation from Gareth Keen of £10,000
Stephen Burke raised £2,000+ on a sponsored cycle ride.
£50,000 invested for shares in Club.
Supporter Director on the Board.
1,474 Members joined in our first year.
Runners Up Award from Supporters Direct in Trust Of The Year + £200
(this was in competition with 54 other Supporters Trusts).
It’s far from the finished article our involvement to date.
Many improvements are needed and more support.
It’s YOUR Trust and it’s here to stay.
Renewals + new members already at 902 in this Second Year.
The success of the Loan Scheme means another £20,000 shares to come.

This is the same Leigh Dineen who, along with other shareholders, sold a controlling stake in SCFC without even informing the Trust

 

Man City have Arab investors but I like many others was uneasy about selling to Americans and wondered why we didn't go for Chines investors when China is the big world economy these days.
Yiuy mist remenber that the average fan such as myself I not aware of all the deals that ere done and can only base our views in what we see. Some of the points made by Matthew Bound and Valley are indeed disturbing and can see where the greedy bastards point of view is coming from. At the beginning of my replies on this post I said I did not understand I do now.

 

People have got too big for their boots.They believed in their own hype.Seems they thought they were "Swansea"
Others in the past thought the same.
Where are they now?

Swans fans,Jack bastards dont give up on the team because of these greedy bastards.
You and I ARE Swansea,we are and shall be true Jack Bastards even though the only money we can pledge is through the turnstills.

STID

 

Have a read of the statement the Trust released back in November (I think). That was the first time I'd heard of the Chinese investors. It was certainly an eye opener.

 

I think the issue Nosugarman is the impression that has been given over the last decade or so that the Trust had a real stake in the Club. The reality is that when money was put on the table personal greed became the overwhelming factor and the best interests of SCFC were secondary, even though the Trust had, according to Dineen, "played a critical role in ousting Tony Petty (with many others)".

 

I must thank all of you for the information you have posted a lot of which I was unaware of. We may all have different opinions on players, managers and .onfield tactics but I think we are all united in our love for our club and contempt for those who try to destroy it.

 

Here is a brief history of the Swansea City Supporters Trust from their website.

“A small group of Supporters initially met in Port Talbot, where it was decided that a Public Meeting would be called at the Brangwyn Hall on Saturday 8th July 2001, at which over 150 interested in the idea of a Supporters Trust attended.

A follow-up meeting was held on Sunday 22nd July at Manselton/Cwmbwrla Community Centre to agree a Constitution, arrange a bank account and form sub-groups from the 50 plus who attended. John Parkhouse chaired the meeting with Mike Kent taking the Minutes.

At this meeting it was reported that Ninth Floor had dismissed Neil McLure as Chairman .on 20th July 2001, this news was greeted with a certain amount of pleasure, bearing in mind the uncertainty surrounding the Club’s future, especially as it was announced that Ninth Floor had no intention of taking Swansea City back into their ownership

Further, Ninth Floor had finally cut its losses and sold the club for £1 to the former Commercial Manager Mike Lewis, but Lewis was saddled with a debt of £801,000 which was repayable to Ninth Floor. Lewis was struggling to run the club alone and set about looking for buyers.

The lines were now drawn and the meeting determined that we were all fully committed to saving our Club, to become part owners and invest in the Club whatever was right for the Supporters, and that a Supporters Trust could be trusted by the fan base.

Dave Boyle was present on behalf of Supporters Direct to outline why we should consider becoming an IPS, which is a not for profit organisation and which could run the Club if necessary. Working Groups were set up from those in attendance and the Working Party would comprise those who signed the Constitution – Richard Lillicrap, Michael Williams, Leigh Dineen and Nigel Hamer.

A further meeting was arranged for Sunday 5th August when arrangements would be made for the Official Launch of the Trust, which would take place at the Patti Pavilion on Bank Holiday Monday 27th August after the home game against Cheltenham.

The launch was extremely successful with over 600 signing up on the day to join what was now a constitutionally set up body ready for an involvement in our football club, in anticipation of the day arriving when Shares became available to purchase in the event of a change of ownership. Membership fees and the auction held raised over £3000. Backing for the Trust came from far and wide with John Toshack, John Hartson, Max Boyce, Gareth Edwards, Rhodri Morgan AM, Martin Caton MP, Kevin Johns, Eurig Wyn MEP, Steve Hamer, Mel Nurse and Mel Charles amongst many pledges of support.
A meeting was called in Bristol where MAGS members and London based fans met to discuss financial matters with past Club Chairman Steve Hamer, also present at this meeting were Phil Sumbler, Keith Haynes, Richard Lillicrap, Leigh Dineen, Tony Jenkins, Nigel Hamer and others. The meeting was designed to give a financial picture of a football Club’s affairs and how Supporters could become involved financially in ownership.

There were e-mails flying thick and fast from Llanelli to Moscow, Cardiff to Swansea, Gloucester to Kingston-Upon-Thames, between fans who were Accountants, Solicitors, Financial Advisers and Businessmen, all determined to ensure the survival of our Club. As the Supporters Trust was now a full constitutional body we became the nerve centre of information for the way forward.

The scenario that we had been anticipating arrived sooner than expected when, in October 2001, Mike Lewis sold the Club to Tony Petty, a Londoner based in Australia, again for £1, but crucially the debt of £801,000 was still due to Ninth Floor and became Petty’s responsibility. A hastily convened gathering of Swans fans, with Richard Lillicrap and Nigel Hamer representing the Trust, took place at Swansea Rugby Club, also present were Martin Morgan, David Bradshaw, Mel Nurse, Gareth Keen, Tony Davies and David Morgan. It was decided at that meeting that we would offer Tony Petty £10,000 to purchase the Club.

Tony Davies (Trust), who had previously met Petty, rang him with the offer, which was rejected out of hand. Following further discussions over the next few days it was eventually agreed to make an increased offer to Petty of £50,000, but this again was rejected and we were back to square one.

At the Trust’s first AGM in the Patti Pavilion in November 2001, Chairman John Parkhouse asked supporters to explore and research all appropriate avenues of inquiry with relevance to bringing them into the public domain in the battle against the current owner, and openly offered the newly formed Trust as a vehicle for transferring control of the Club to local people, in the promise that the future of the Club would be secured.

Further behind the scenes discussions took place, with Leigh Dineen, being more locally based, taking over from Richard Lillicrap in future meetings. It was evident that there was a reluctance by any one individual to move forward in taking the risk single handedly, which resulted in the Consortium being formed, and the Trust were charged with co-ordinating future meetings with potential investors. At this time we were aware that Ninth Floor were prepared to sell the £801,000 debt for £100,000, and with this in mind a hastily convened meeting was called at the Tudor Court Hotel, where Martin Morgan, George Edwards, Don Keefe, Gwilym Joseph and David Williams, along with Leigh Dineen and Nigel Hamer, met to discuss the possibility of raising the £100,000 to purchase the debt.

This debt purchase would have given the Consortium an asset to raise further funds to send Petty on a one way journey back to Australia. However, with time being the absolutely critical factor for the survival of our football club, there was inevitably much going on in the background, and the Group learnt that the Chairman of Ninth Floor, Alan Wix, had met with Mike Lewis and Mel Nurse and agreed on a sale of the debt to Nurse. The Trust then became fully involved in discussions with Mel Nurse’s Solicitor Tim Jones and Insolvency Practioner Gary Stones in helping to provide as much information as possible from various sources, not least the Football Association. Members of the Trust Board were very supportive of Mel Nurse in his Court case against Tony Petty, and many attended Court during the hearing.

The Trust arranged a further meeting at Clyne Golf Club, with Martin Morgan, George Edwards, Don Keefe, David Williams, Nigel Hamer and Leigh Dineen present, with a new addition to the meeting being local businessman Huw Jenkins.

A follow-up meeting was held at the Oaktree Park Hotel where Martin Burgess, who had recently been removed from office by Petty, became a member of the working party. At this time Gareth Keen and his advisors had rejoined the group, with the meeting attended by Tim Jones, Mel Nurse, David Morgan, and Nigel Hamer and Leigh Dineen representing the Trust, and two other local businessmen, who subsequently withdrew their involvement.

Brian Katzen had previously indicated an interest but as nothing further had been heard from him, it was decided that we would move forward without him. However, Martin Burgess was sure that Katzen wished to be involved and contacted him the following day, and he confirmed his interest. At one of these meetings Gareth Keen decided that he would prefer to donate £10,000 to the Supporters Trust in lieu of his involvement, a gesture that was greatly appreciated by the Trust representatives present.

Petty was in discussions with a consortium, but the Trust were concerned that it was not locally based and once again urged Petty to transfer his entire shareholding into local ownership via the Supporters Trust, which was fast becoming the main thrust of attempts to rid the Club of Petty.

A rally attended by almost 2000 fans marched from Castle Square to the Vetch Field prior to a game, and a further crisis meeting with over 1000 fans present was held in the Patti Pavilion, where a heroes’ welcome was given to Nick Cusack and fourteen of his team mates along with Trust President Alan Curtis. With television crews in attendance, MC Kevin Johns and the other speakers urged supporters to back the Trust in its attempts to wrest control from Petty.

Mel Nurse had now become the figurehead and the man determined to take Petty on in Court to save his and the fans football Club, and the Supporters Trust were at his side at every twist and turn, unfortunately as the result of a very weak Barrister, Mel Nurse lost the case. However, the fans and the Supporters Trust were more determined than ever to oust Petty.

In January 2002, a package and draft Consortium agreement was put together with the aid of Swans fan and Solicitor Steve Penny, who had offered his services free in the campaign to oust Tony Petty, and he, along with Tim Jones, Mel Nurse and David Morgan, travelled to a meeting in Cardiff to meet Petty. Thankfully, the offer of £20,000 to buy out Petty was accepted and a further meeting was called in the Sea Haven Hotel on 6th February to discuss the Consortium Agreement, which would become a signed agreement for the formation of Swansea City Football 2001 Limited.

The document was produced and was signed by the Trust representatives at that meeting, Leigh Dineen and Nigel Hamer. Also present were Martin Burgess, who had become more involved during the Court case and had brought Brian Katzen to the table, Steve Penny , Mel Nurse, David Morgan and two others who had expressed an interest in becoming involved but decided it wasn’t for them financially.

Other investors who had not been a party to all of the meetings but had agreed to become financially involved were OTH Limited (Martin Morgan), Redi Plastics Limited (Huw Jenkins), Five Thirty Ltd (Brian Katzen), and Swansea Jacks Ltd (John van Zweden and David Morgan) – these, together with Mel Nurse, Robert Davies and Olliedom Ltd (Dineen family) comprise the shareholders in the “new” Swansea City FC.

The Trust were allowed additional time to obtain their £50,000 investment as the other consortium members were Corporate bodies, there was also agreement that the Trust could have a Director for their investment and also be allowed to invest a further £50,000, which would entitle them to a further seat on the newly formed Board of Directors. The Trust Board agreed that Leigh Dineen would become the Supporter Director, and would form part of a Management team, along with other investors, to run the Club as a Committee.

The Supporters Trust were paramount in ensuring that the Consortium became a reality, something which is not universally appreciated by fans and investors alike. The current Club Board and current Shareholders (Edit: this refers to those before the sale to the Americans), apart from Leigh Dineen who became our Supporter Director, were not involved at the outset but became involved as the months progressed. We are firmly of the belief that as long as there is a Swansea City Football Club there will be a Supporters Trust, a body that will remain a Shareholder long after other current Shareholders.”

Bearing in mind the above points, the very fact that “the Consortium” sold the Club without consulting the Trust has caused a huge amount of bad feeling! Whats worse, is that those who feel betrayed by the sale, see it as an insult that those who benefitted still hold important, well paid positions in the Club and still have ongoing business contracts with the Club. Hence the chant "Greedy bastards, get out of our Club"

 

Believe me I took no pleasure from my previous posts and I wish it wasn't so .

 

Martin Burgess was the man that really sorted petty out, and the board thanked him by kicking him out...........................


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"It has been confirmed that Martin Burgess has left the Vetch after the management committee decided that his skills were not required and that it was best for both parties that they went their separate ways. Burgess had played a big part in the ousting of Tony Petty from the football club and it had been anticipated that he would be appointed as managing director of the club".

 

No disrespect meant to Nosugarman1 but I believe that there are hundreds if not thousands of supporters who still believe Jenkins & co's **** smells of lavender , either because they genuinely don't know , don't care or not interested enough to take in the information that's out there .We've all in the main been taken in by the old board and as in life everyone's reasonably content in a happy well run home and don't feel the need to question and possibly the biggest culprit has been the Trust , it's been too cosy for too long with little change of leadership because we haven't felt the need for change ,but as we can see now what a mistake we've collectively made , allowed the likes of Jenkins / co to go unchallenged until it's too late . The protests are subdued atm because of the points I mentioned above and that may remain whatever our future will be but imo there's enough anger out there to make certain individuals wary of their existence should they remain living and working in the City.

 

http://www.southwales-eveningpost.c...s-no-punches/story-29828655-detail/story.html

Here's what was in the Trusts statement.

 

Thanks you for your post #29 PGF Very informative, highly enlightening yet very upsetting.

The more I learn about the history of the trust the more I feel insulted by the way the old board have acted in order to sell their shares. Hiding their intentions from the trust and or anyone who may have a legitimate input into the intricacies of the sale of shares can't exactly be legal can it?

I also feel betrayed by the representatives of the supporters trust who's weakness and inadequacies in opposition created a boardroom where it was possible for their input to be completely ignored and or overlooked as an irrelevance.

I feel like the club lauded by fans and pundits as a gem in the premier league has been nothing but a sham from the get go and the 'The shining example' we were led to believe in was nothing but smoke and mirrors.

 

I think a big issue that most have with the board is that they appear to have purposely minimized / withheld funds for new players during the last 3 -4 transfer windows, a period of time when selling the clubs was on the agenda......all done IMO to make sure the finances were as attractively as they could be to ensure the best price for the club and maximize cash into their own pockets.

For me Jenkins and Morgan are our very own G W Bush and Dick Cheney....one is the spokesperson, the other the evil genius behind the operation. Not sure where Dineeen fits..... I don't see him as a Rumsfeld, and less so Condaleeza Rice

 

Lineen ? Food taster?

 

Oh I am not so sure - in a dark room with the lights off

 

he doesn't fit any where nowadays , All that fine living paid for buy us

 

For me I have no problem with them selling and making a few bob, they took the chance when they put their money in years ago, What really chapps my arse is I thought they may have thought about the club and the fans a little when they were searching for a buyer. No matter who they sold the club to they would have made a handsome amount of money, it just looks like they have taken the first real opportunity to jump shift and make as much money as they can and now its **** the club I am alright jack, rather than search for an owner who would actually make the club better. For me that is the big issue and for that I hope one day in the future they all lose all their money.

 

They took 6 or so very fruitful seasons toward building the club , practically , and cashed it in for their own ruthless greed .