Fan's Generic Anti-Western, Religion and Politics Thread

And why would that be then?

 

knew you would say this

check it out for yourself. a person being born here doesnt make that person english.

Both Bopara and monty will be known as being of 'Indian origin' and neither could become PM

 

You knew I'd say this because it has no basis in reality.
Where do you get this crap from?

 

What rules are in force that state someone of Indian Origin born in the United kingdom cannot be Prime minister?

 

you are confusing nationality and ethnicity

British is the nationality, Indian is the ethnicity

english is ethnicity isnt it? ie british with english/irish/scottish origin

 

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You're confusing fantasy with reality.

There is no English passport, but if somebody's born in England and they want to claim that they're English, then they just are.
There's no rules or laws about their ethnicity and Panesar or Bopara could both stand as MPs or become the Prime Minister, if they desired and they were elected.

Stop getting every piece of information that you run your life by from frothing lunatics.

 

Who's gonna tell the welsh and scots that they're British and being Scottish or Welsh is just ethnicity?

Oh and TFWNN - I'm still waiting for an explanation as to what rules are in force to prevent British born people with Indian parents from being PM (unless they're catholics of course so don't use that one)

 

glad you see it that way

so these englishmen grooming those young lasses in yorkshire, fookin coontz, should be hanged if guilty

and that englishman anjem chowdary

 

you kind of answered your own question.

can you imagine a sikh, hindu or muslim getting in

 

There's no actual rule about Catholics either, I believe.
It would be a little odd to have someone that's not part of the Church of England dishing out jobs in that organisation, but it's not prohibited.
Gordon Brown's supposedly a member of the Church of Scotland and that wasn't seen as a conflict.

 

I don't agree with capital punishment, but the people that you've mentioned are all English, as far as I know.

Yeah, that'd be like the Americans electing a black man.

 

So, just to sum up, you'd accept that everything that you've said on here has no basis in fact then, Fan?

 

It's still in the constitution I believe hence Blair's conversion on leaving office. It could, of course be an urban myth.
I think if there was conflict then the appointment of Mr Disraeli would have been a little more contentious than Gordon Brown - not that i was around in the 19th century you understand!

 

I cannot imagine it but that does not mean they're not allowed to.

 

There's a statute from 1829 about Roman Catholics or Jews being unable to "advise the sovereign on ecclesiastical matters", but somebody else could be appointed to that specific duty.
I think it'd probably get scrubbed anyway, if it were ever an issue.
I don't even think that a potential Prime Minister ever has to publicly declare their faith, as far as I know.
Gordon Brown hasn't.

 

A Catholic wouldn't become PM, we both know it, why do you think Blair waited til after he left to convert officially to Catholicism.

 

I don't think that most people really care about it, to be honest.
It might be an issue in Northern Ireland or Scotland, but that's about votes and not any constitutional issues.

 

I totally agree - suspect it may have been different in the 70s and 80s but not now.

 

A Catholic is Deputy First Minister of NI. Has a Catholic ever been deputy PM of Britain?