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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. superhorns

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    I would expect less than 1% of the UK electorate could name The Green Party's other joint leader apart from Caroline Lucas. The 'Greens' in the U.K can accurately be described as a tiny minority party, this also applies to the Lib Dems with only a token 9 MP's. They are obviously over represented in the unelected Lords which is why it is out of kilter with public opinion.
     
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  2. colognehornet

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    So, the Lib Dems are a tiny minority party - yet kept you lot in office for 5 years as coalition partners, digging their own grave in the process. I think it will be a very long time before any party risks a coalition with the Tories again. Remember - in terms of votes, you are also a minority party in as much as the majority voted against you at the last election. The other leader of the Green Party of England and Wales is Jonathan Bartley, and there is also no such thing as the UK. Green Party - bearing in mind also that they got 3.8% of the vote, this would mean that at least 3.8% of the population knew his name (including me and I don't even live there) - funnily enough, I don't know the name of the deputy leader of the Tories - please enlighten me.
     
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  3. superhorns

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    Did you not notice the LibDems lost 40 seats at the last election and were nearly wiped out. The Tories are the natural party for government, they do need any coalition partners.

    I'm just going down for dinner and will hobnob with my fellow German guests. I promise not to mention the... Brexit!!!
     
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    The Tories are what <laugh> Did you not notice that 63.1% of the electorate (who bothered voting) voted against them, and that the only way they can claim a majority on that basis is due to an antiquated undemocratic voting system. If the same result had come up in Germany they would have been scratching around for coalition partners - and in France it would have gone to a head to head second vote with Labour - and how many SNP, Green or Liberal voters would vote Tory in that scenario.
     
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    The problem you have is the comparison with the German and French political systems is completely irreverent. The UK's first past the post is here to stay. With the socialists and LibDems in disarray it ensures the Tories an easy ride. I resisted the urge to run through the dining rooms shouting 'BREXIT' !!
     
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    I have been amazed how many UK tourists I have met that proclaimed they voted for Brexit. I have also met quite a few Americans holidaying in Europe. None admitted voting for Trump, they seem to be embarrassed by him. Few think he will serve the full term.
     
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    I know one trumpster... white, business owner, southern baptist, living in the south. It will be "interesting" times for her and her family given the AHCA repeal fiasco. She's been pretty quiet of late. Of course nazinige doesn't mind being around orange45. They deserve each other. Embarrassing indeed. Hopefully the authorities will find enough evidence to impeach the whole sorry theocratic fascist lot of them before it's too late.
     
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    Theocratic? I hope you're not including me in that sorry lot, Fez...<laugh>
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    From a YouGov poll. Fun times ahead it would seem...

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    Happy Brexit Day everyone.

    I hope Gina Millar and her fellow publicity seeking rich friends consider they had value for money.
     
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    Don't count your chickens before they are hatched SH. If you really want to celebrate a day in which Britain choses to isolate itself from its nearest neighbours and partners then wait until another 2 years are up. Britain is still a member of the EU, there are lots of twists and turns still to come, and the 'negatives' of Brexit are, also, still to come - a lot can happen in 2 years and a reversal is possible at any time.
     
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    There is no prospect of a failure to carry out the wishes of the British people. Brexit will definitely happen. True, the negatives and the positives are yet to come. It is time for the remoaners to get behind the PM and her team to secure the best possible deal. Dissent will only encourage the EU negotiators to act in spite instead of mature deal making for the benefit of all.
     
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    What utter crap you come out with at times SH. Britain is acting like someone who asks for a divorce and then says they want all the advantages of the bedchamber without any of the responsibilities of the marriage - both during, and after, the divorce. It is absolutely clear that Britain must leave the EU. first and can only then start negotiating trade deals with it - or with individual EU nations. All you want to do is cherry pick the best things which the EU. has to offer, and that is not the course of action anyone expects from a reliable 'partner'.
     
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    There is no chance that people who believe strongly in working with others, sharing common problems, keeping access to the UK's largest market that in turn provides work for our population, will suddenly say yes we will support the PM. Near enough half the population are against this action, which is a very dangerous situation for any politician. The EU are simply sticking to the rules when they decide how these negotiations are run. The UK have little say in the matter. There might be a resolution of the terms of leaving within a couple of years, but no chance there will be any trade deal within that time. The EU are setting a three year period for transition after the two years is up, meaning that the UK will be having a general election within that time, and that far away anything could happen. It was said on TV today that Maybot got the first thing she tried wrong, by trying to sidestep the EU and get a split by going to Merkel over citizens rights, but she has rather more principles. The UK already has the best deal, so I for one have no idea how it can be improved.
     
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    You should learn to post without insults. It does not help your point.
     
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  20. colognehornet

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    I said 'crap' SH. referring to your text on this, and on so many other occasions. ie. I am using the expletive to refer to some of your texts, and not to you. Look in the dictionary definition of 'insult' and you will see my point here - also, I do not need to 'learn' from you. The text stands in its entirety - the EU. is getting impatient of May's attempts to sidestep the established rules, and, fortunately, Merkel is not playing ball here. As Frenchie has said Britain will never get a better deal, or even an equal one, to the one it already has.
     
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