1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Crystal Palace v Hull City AFC - Team news

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, May 11, 2017.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    25,203
    Likes Received:
    13,651
    We've certainly conceded goals from set pieces all season. Which is strange because we've had a decent defence at times. Even pre Silva, once a few of the injuries came back we had Dawson and Davies playing in the middle yet still conceded loads from set pieces. Think WBA scored 4 against us in two games before Phelan left. So it's hard to see how a particular system is at fault.

    I do wonder how much people would talk about zonal marking if managers and pundits didn't point it out first. Can't say I've ever been at a game and observed that we're using zonal marking or otherwise.
     
    #101
    johnbo and Kempton like this.
  2. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    13,068
    Likes Received:
    4,942
    I wasn't quoting you.
    Do you mean a life that involves International travel, experience new cultures etc? Then I have a life. How is your life stacking shelves?
    Can you write a sentence without an expletive?
     
    #102
  3. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    And then the defender marking that zone should pick it up. I didnt say Harry wasnt doing his job I was referring to the defender who was meant to be defending that zone

    Its simple you have your best defenders (of corners) defending the most dangerous zones and then the other players defending the remaining zones just like you would have your best defenders marking the most dangerous attackers (of corners).

    Both systems have problems its finding the one that works best for the players you have.
    Personally I prefer a mix of both man marking the most dangerous attackers and then the rest defending the zones but even that has its problem that defenders can get in each others way
     
    #103
  4. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    53,881
    Likes Received:
    44,343
    Bore off you ****ing prick.
    You have all that allegedly but spend your life on here correcting posts. ****er
     
    #104
  5. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    53,881
    Likes Received:
    44,343
    The best defender in the world can't get up above an attacking player who has a five yard run on him.
     
    #105
  6. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    13,068
    Likes Received:
    4,942
    Drunk already?
    Which post did I correct exactly?
     
    #106
  7. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    53,881
    Likes Received:
    44,343
    I'm not giving you any more oxygen.
    Mods sort the boring **** out its ****ing tedious reading his unfunny ****
     
    #107
  8. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    1,017

    Who said anything about a static player.
    The defender knows the zone they are covering they shouldnt just stand in the middle of it waiting for the ball. They need to stand a yard goal side of it or just on the edge of the zone so they can move into the zone as the corner is being taken and adjust as they see the trajectory of the ball.
     
    #108
  9. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    13,068
    Likes Received:
    4,942
    I repeat, which posts did I correct? You are mixing me up with someone else.
    Nobody forces you to read my posts. My jokes are aimed at intelligent, educated people on the whole.
    Would you continuously swear at me like this in real life?
     
    #109
  10. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    53,881
    Likes Received:
    44,343
    You've obviously not seen how we defend it then.
    Our players line up along the 6 yard line. That's what we do.
    Why do you think ranoccia etc are stood flat and they are high up above them?? Because they are taking a Run at the corner.
     
    #110
    GLP likes this.

  11. AlRawdah

    AlRawdah Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2014
    Messages:
    7,932
    Likes Received:
    7,833
    You're a ****ing awful shot then.
     
    #111
  12. TigerMarv

    TigerMarv Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 12, 2011
    Messages:
    3,155
    Likes Received:
    1,017
    Thats what I was trying to get at in an earlier post its how the system is deployed/how the players operate it, not the system itself

    Its the same with man marking its a perfectly good system when used properly but if you dont pick up your man or get blocked off the system wont work
     
    #112
    Chazz Rheinhold likes this.
  13. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    53,881
    Likes Received:
    44,343
    Fair enough mate <ok>
     
    #113
  14. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2011
    Messages:
    13,068
    Likes Received:
    4,942
    Is this chazz with another ID?
    Didn't you see my intellectual joke thread? Can you explain them?
     
    #114
  15. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    28,846
    Likes Received:
    25,202
    Except in Zonal marking no one has a specific player to mark. It's all down to guess work until more often than not the keeper is picking the ball out of the back of the net.

    Man marking there's no confusion, it's quite clear on what your job is. I have never seen zonal marking working well.
     
    #115
  16. tigercity

    tigercity Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2011
    Messages:
    7,491
    Likes Received:
    1,185
    indeed it is guesswork as there are no painted lines on the pitch to show the 'zones' so an instant's hesitation can be fatal when a defender asks himself, 'is this ball mine or his?'
     
    #116
    GLP likes this.
  17. GLP

    GLP Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2011
    Messages:
    28,846
    Likes Received:
    25,202
    Must win game tomorrow.

    I'd go 4-3-3

    Elmo or Ellab Maguire Frog Robbo

    N'diaye Hudd Clucas

    Niasse Abel Grosicki
     
    #117
  18. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2013
    Messages:
    14,546
    Likes Received:
    10,394
    Got to win but if we're too gung ho about it I think we'll get caught on the break, I'd start with:

    Jak
    Elab, Ranocchia, Harry, Robbo
    Hudd, N'Diaye, Clucas, Evandro, Grosicki
    Niasse

    And make use of Maloney, Abel, etc as needed.
     
    #118
    Howden Tigress likes this.
  19. SimonGraysJacket

    SimonGraysJacket Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2012
    Messages:
    1,739
    Likes Received:
    2,248
    If Elmohamady is in the starting line up tomorrow, I am going to remove my eyes using a table spoon, and then ask someone to grate them down a pebbledash wall, and feed the remnents to a passing stray cat.
     
    #119
    GLP likes this.
  20. Plum

    Plum Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2013
    Messages:
    14,546
    Likes Received:
    10,394
    Hideous prospect! Do you write horror scripts in your spare time?
     
    #120

Share This Page