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Cheating in sport.

Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by LIBERTARIAN, Aug 7, 2017.

  1. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    Well, she has testicles <whistle>
     
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  2. BobbyD

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    Yeah changed it thought it could go out wrong.

    Her unfair advantage is natural, like longer arms, longer legs, better eyes, bigger feet <doh>
     
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    But her biology suggests that's she's not fully a woman? She has no womb, ovaries, and she has testicles and a high testosterone count.

    Yes, it's not her fault, but she does have an advantage over other 'normal' female athletes. If she had the biological make up of a woman, she wouldn't have got a bronze medal tonight.
     
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    This is a great debate with some great questions raised! It's been asked why Gatlin was given such a bad reception whilst guys like Yohaan Blake got nothing.
    I don't think people need to be consistent do they? If they dislike Gatlin, they're not duty bound to boo every drug-cheat are they, who made that rule?
    Gatlin has been done twice, won Olympic medals and claims that a disgruntled trainer rubbed steroid-containing cream into him during a massage! Seriously??!!!
    Culturally there are differences too I think. Suarez returned to Uruguay a hero, after biting Ciellini in Brazil 2014!!! People defended him to the hilt when it was obvious to everyone what he had done.
    And no I'm not saying all South Americans are cheats, but I think there is more of an attitude of doing "whatever it takes" to win at all costs.
     
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    I have a real problem with cheating to win in sport. It indicates a weakness in character.
    If you have to cheat to win, then as far as I'm concerned you haven't really won anything. In fact you have lost. If that makes any sense.

    My sporting heroes were Ivor Allchurch, John Charles, Jack Nicklaus, Jimmy White, to mention but four. They set the standards by which I judge all others, and they set the bar at a very high level.
    White famously called a foul against himself in a World Snooker final against Steve Davis. He was leading Davis in the frame count and looked certain to win the title. Sadly, Davis went on to win the title, something White never achieved.
    But White was the real winner by showing the world what he was made of.

    The reality of life is that many people will happily cheat to achieve their goals. 'Cheats prosper', is an oft quoted adage.

    I brought up my children to always play fair, and they are better people for it.
     
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    It 's not a " Player " problem , imo ... it's an Officiating and not grabbing on to video replay problem .
     
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    The All Blacks would disagree here. There's sadly to much money involved now and professionals go out to 'win at all costs'. As Roof says, it's up to the officials to pull them up on it.
     
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    Never stopped you before.
     
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    Bangkok is a great place for a night out <laugh>
     
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    Anyone watching Utd v RM? As soon as a Utd player gets within 5 foot of a RM player, they 'fall over'.
     
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    absolutely shocking that makwala isn't allowed to run. Sounds like theres some major controversy going on
     
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    Why what's happening? Haven't followed the athletics today.
     
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    It's disgraceful, he should be running. Sounds like a complete balls up by the IAAF!!
     
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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/40857720

    guys banned from running. He says hes fine, medical team says hes fine (some englishman is his medical lead). IAAF say he's banned. Apparantly IAAF said he's been tested, medical team and isake says he hasn't (botswana peeps were live on air, seemed pretty compelling).

    The other favourite for the 400m guy is apparantly a favourite of the IAAF from the article i read.

    IAAF refusing to listen to anything being said
     
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    Bloody hell <yikes>
     
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    What goes round, comes round #MarcusRashfordversusSwansea <laugh>
     
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    Another night on the Beeb with very little athletics.
     
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    Pole vault was good!! Glad the Yank lad won.
     
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    IAAF have taken the advice of Public Health England and Gabby Logan is trying to stir things here <grr>
     
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    Enjoyed the pole vault too
     
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