Match Day Thread Brentford v Newcastle United

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  1. Roland Deschampionship

    Roland Deschampionship Well-Known Member

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    Actually I think we need to step the tactics up a notch. I'd mimic Spurs a bit. They tend to play with a four across the back, but Naughton and Rose are very attack minded; high end versions of Yedlin and Lazaar! But what happens with Spurs is the full backs are encouraged forward, where Eric Dier is then held back to the point of becoming a back three, with their other CB's like Aldereiweld operating as CB/LB. Now we have the personnel, very much, to make that happen - it's about coaching and tactics for me, as well as of course ability.

    But where i think we get it wrong is the front 6 players. This 2-3-1 thing doesn't suit our Championship/poor Premiership players, they're all a bit hit and miss - Silva, Willian, Mkhtaryan, De Bruyne, Alli, Eriksen they AIN'T! So we need to pace things up a bit, in my opinion. I'd retain Hayden, but move him central as a real destroyer (Dier's good with the ball too, but his role is really defensive); all too often with Hayden/Colback/Anita we end up with TWO defending and both getting a bit clumsy with it, with no real outlet and being overrun or just with no options. So I'd then go 4-1-2-3 (or just 4-3-3 really).

    So in this formation, with Hayden sitting, I'd have Shelvey obviously back in then look to get Vurnon Anita in there alongside him. He's not a great option, and for me that's an area we have to strengthen, but he's busy, he makes himself available and can exploit space better if Shelvey is getting closed down; it also puts us a bit higher up the field and more on the front foot, with emphasis on attacking. Ahead of those two is then an attacking trio of Ritchie, Perez and Gayle. Notice we're not playing wingers, we're playing attackers; crosses from full back will happen, but less often than playing wingers/full-backs. These three should look to work off each other, drop inside, create space up the flanks for full backs as well as run channels for Shelvey.

    The only thing we really lose here is a target man; now it's about research and the opposition. If the opposition needs that up against them, then I'd look to switch into the 3-5-2 formation; Hayden drops right into CB (right side), Lascelles middle and Clark left. Shelvey and Anita sit behind Ritchie, Yedlin/Lazaar on the flanks and Murphy/Mitro partner Gayle up top.

    In football manager tradition, I'd have these two formations as my preference in this league. 4-3-3 first, and 3-5-2 second.
     
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  2. Windy_Mag

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    There is simply no reason for us to be playing with one up top in this league. You win the Championship by thrashing the **** teams and scraping results against those around you. Losing at home to the likes of Blackburn, Wolves and Sheff Weds was a direct result of Rafa's negative tactics. You cannot honestly tell me that we needed to play defensively against those sides.
     
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    Sorry to say this Albert but that sounds so sad.
     
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  4. Mitro's Choreographer

    Mitro's Choreographer I insist on a ban NOW please mods!!
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    For most, yes. But for Chippy it's actually a big step forward.

    <cheers>
     
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  5. Rafa's Championship Party

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    3-0 win Torres hat trick <laugh>
     
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  6. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace

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    Only a hat-trick? Is it only coming on for the last 10 minutes?
     
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  7. Obi Wan

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    He even used joined up typing.
     
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    How many pens will he take? 12?
     
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  9. trentderby

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    We will fail at losing the game. 2-1 win, ritchie to score first.
     
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    Any ideas of drinking establishments in Brentford. Where are you all going
     
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  11. Roland Deschampionship

    Roland Deschampionship Well-Known Member

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    I used to work in Chiswick, which isn't that far. Chiswick High Road has some top quality pubs. Naturally I won't be there, having moved even further darn sarf.
     
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  12. Mitro's Choreographer

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    I think they're the same as the rest of the country. They're called Pubs.

    <cheers>
     
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  13. jimileysbaldhead

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    3-1 win all day long.
     
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    <laugh> Have you ever had a CORRECT 3-1 win prediction Jim?
     
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  15. trentderby

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    the new inn is great, but might only be a home pub, great pint of the black stuff.
     
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  16. Windy_Mag

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    Have a spare ticket for the game tomorrow since I can't go now!
     
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  17. Beardsleymagic08

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    Twitter has gone mad over the last 2 weeks with fans looking for Brentford Tickets. If you can send the ticket down with another fan, they will sell it no bother outside the ground
     
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  18. Obi Wan

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    Beardo! <ok>
    Any chance you can bring your snow plough down our way so I can get out of our street?
     
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  19. Tol3

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    This still going? How much??
     
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  20. Tol3

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    Richmond is just across Kew bridge which is close and has a load of boozers. I haven't got a ticket but still up for a pre match beer :)
     
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