Are Liverpool in a Perpetual State of Transition?

Having practically 9 men in the Chelsea half during injury time at end of first half was criminal.

 

Totally agree.

But gerrard only needed to control it. He let it under his foot

 

Ifs and buts anyway. We were never expected to be in that position, even by the end of March. We just came from nowhere that Spring after a run of eleven wins on the bounce. But let's not kid ourselves, good as Sterling, Studge, Gerrard, Ford and Hendo were that year, it was all about one man who was unarguably the best player in the world that season (and yes, that includes Messi and ronaldo), and the team fell to ****ing bits when he left. I mean, of course, Victor Moses...

 

Remember his pass for Studge against QPR (or was it Fulham, not sure). We really struggled that game and were losing, then outside of his right foot, curled round two defenders onto an incoming Studge who did the rest. Much like Kaka's pass against us in Istanbul for Inter's third.

 

Tbf even the best sides in the world give 1 or 2 chances away in a match. To hold spurs to that 1 chance was a great effort

 

Are Liverpool in a Perpetual State of Transition?

Yes. Neverending Bloody Story!

We haven't been right since Dalglish was our manager back in 1990 or thereabouts, it's been up and down since then, like we've been on a spiral escalator without ever actually reaching the end.

 

so like every other team apart from the few who are successful in this period of history. How do you think the Mancs felt in the 70's & 80's or Spurs most of their history.
when you get down to it this is the natural state the domination by teams like PNE ,Wolves , Arsenal , Liverpool , Man U are the historical oddities by virtue of their success

 

My bad. Got that wrong, but at time what I said was even though wasn't in our hands after Chelsea, a win against palace (even by 1 goal) would put pressure on city to win all their games. By going crazy and trying to win 9-0 and ending up drawing it gave city even more room and less pressure to go win every game. Who knows if we'd won 3-0 against palace city might have won all games and still won it, but by giving them that 2 point gap, just eased the pressure knowing they could afford a draw.

 

You are right. City really knew they had it after palace.

 

Imo, which is not popular view but i felt on hindsight that kenny ran us into the ground out of loyalty to players and in some ways mirrored what Shankly did with his first team.

If kenny had been begged back six month later and backed like jack walker backed him i think hed have rebuilt

Roy evans with respect... couldnt control players and bought badly.

 

More than the managers our main problem was David Moores ran us like a corner shop. No coincidence that he took over as chairman in 1991 and we haven't won a league title since.

 

I certainly agree with that.

Irreparable damage done cos he should have matched and beaten every manc move and we really ought to have the stadium in 1992 never mind still wondering.

 

Ffs lads how many here were born and watched us at our best..? I just about remember it!

Not to go all Mito on you but when in the last 25 years has it not been an annual disappointment? Oh we've fired a broadside or two in that time but always always fell short.

One reason only...this isn't the 70's or 80's ...it's the PL ..you need millions or luck of the stars to win it...United and their once on a life time academy boys...have they repeated that? No...They've bought ...

Blackburn? Spunked one old fans money and got it done once...

Leicester? Like United (that people year)...hit a roll and kept going...

Otherwise it's buy the best with a good coaching set up...and even then... no garauntees..

Getting a bit fed up of this disappointment cycle..we are not in the 80's and we don't make enough money to really compete...

Defeatist? Probably..but seriously guys...we just aren't the cream.

Bit of luck like United, in buys or academy fine..we are big enough to capitalise but...just buy or build a team in 2 years...

I'm sure I'll be called Defeatist or plastic but lads; decades, multiple owners, multiple good managers ...they don't lie...

 

We make do.

Moores did
G&h thought they could
Fsg do

Managers make do too. They all compromise.

I have never seen a top to bottom lfc since 1988 say that was all about winning.

Until.top to bottom we say nothing but the best will.do and move all the shots on we are doomed to repeat it.

Oh and dont ****ing insult me like that thanks

 

If I was the nail I'd be going "****ing ow!" right now, as you've just twatted me right on the head.

 

I think the next transfer window is key to us moving on. We have the basis of a very good squad. Can we strengthen well for once? If we buy well then we could move out of this transition and this is where we always go wrong, in years gone by the players we bring in are not good enough.

 

Oh, Dirtyfrank!!

 

Stop being a girl.

 

How did I insult you lol?

 

I might have been drunk....