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Off Topic 29 March - Happy Brexit Day everyone

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by User deleted as requested, Mar 28, 2017.

  1. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    If brexit is scrapped i am having a party.
    Fecking stupid idea borne out of racism masquerading as patriotism.
     
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  2. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    Not all based their vote on a racism or patriotism. I can guarantee that there are some sordid and repugnant people in the remain camp!
     
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  3. lardiman

    lardiman The truth is out there
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    We joined the Common Market in the mid 1970's if memory serves (I was quite young at the time)
    There was no flag, no single currency, no talk of a European army or an all-powerful non-elected Commission or ever closer political union.

    The EU is an idea borne out of Imperialism masquerading as Federalism.

    That does not make every remain voter a believer in ever closer union any more than it makes every leave voter a racist.
    But commitment to ever closer union as an absolute ideology (rather than ongoing commitment to respect the democratic wishes of the people of EU member states) is not what the British people agreed to in 1975.

    Cameron gave the people of the UK a chance to vote on whether they wished to continue to be part of the EU project, and by a majority of about 2 million the UK electorate voted to leave. The very fact that Cameron had made no plans whatsoever to accomodate that result exposed the EU referendum for the sham that it was.

    It isn't the end of the world if Brexit collapses and we have to grovel to the EU to let us un-trigger Article 50. It will be a massive humiliation, and it will mean the UK will never again have any influence on the future direction of the Union - not that we had much anyway. But nobody will die.
    It might not be possible to say the same about Northern Ireland if Theresa May tries to continue to govern for a full term with the DUP propping up her self-inflicted minority.
    Compared to the potential consequences there, Brexit is a trivial matter.
     
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  4. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Our politicians work very well together on cross-party lines on select committees, it should be possible for them to work together on Brexit. I suppose it's because select committees take place away from the glare of publicity, whereas tribal loyalties take over when debates are carried out in public.
     
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  5. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    We're also Great Britain for f*** sake! Brexit (we really need to come up with a new name), is not going to destroy us.

    Who not going to want to do business with us, because we don't want to be lorded over by other unelected politicians, who've never stood in a constituency in the U.K.?
     
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  6. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    We need them more than we need them, no sane trading nation would tell its nearest neighbours to feck off especially as we do 80%+ of our trade with them.

    We export five times more to ireland than we do to india, australia and new zealand combined.
    trade with the rest of the world will never be as beneficial as what already had with the eu. If you think trumps america will give us a decent deal you are in lala land.
     
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  7. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    Simple. Do a deal with Ireland? And then do a deal with Germany so we can still drive all them BMWs?
     
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  8. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Just like that!
     
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  9. Holden Chinaski

    Holden Chinaski Well-Known Member

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    That's the super layman way of putting it @ForestHillBilly. But in all seriousness, why don't we just talk trade and get arrangements in place with the democratically elected government of Ireland if its key to us and vice-versa?
     
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  10. DonCorleone

    DonCorleone Well-Known Member

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    In theory brexit isn't that bad of an idea, only when you remember that the tories will be negotiating it do you remember what a shambles it will be.
     
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  11. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    I was about 60% remainer, there are obvious flaws in the EU. But so far it seems to me that there was no honest debate, and the advantages of leaving were exaggerated.
     
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  12. DickPlumb

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    WHERE IS ROYSTON. I think we should be told.
     
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  13. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Not just Royston, the other Brexiteers, Ponders, Slackbladder and AHLL are very quiet,making the forum a bit unbalanced. Maybe when we get a bit of Charlton news we'll get things back to normal on ere.
     
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  14. DonCorleone

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    Just seen on twitter he has said May is a great Prime Minister - safe to say he is in a gUtter somewhere sniffing glue.
     
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  15. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Ireland is still an eu member and as such will be happy to adhere to the rules.
    Therefore your suggested trade deal cant happen.
    A problem we caused and its for us fix.
     
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  16. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    The JA of politics
     
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  17. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Ken Clarke for Prime Minister.
     
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  18. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Do not fear, Royston's back in full cry on Twitter about "The Left". I was getting worried about him.
     
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    He didn't like the negative attitude towards the tories. Simple truth.
     
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  20. ForestHillBilly

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    I've always had a negative attitude towards them, and it's never bothered him before. I think he'll find it hard to find a football forum with a positive attitude towards the Tories, so if he doesn't come back on ere when the football starts he'll have to stick to twitter :emoticon-0128-hi:.
     
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