2017 Pre-Season Testing: Barcelona

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  1. ched999uk

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    It does seem a bit weird that Honda have it so wrong again. They know how powerful their 2016 PU was and surely they would have data predicting how much extra the Merc has. So you would think they would have tried to build a PU that was 5-10% better than Merc to compensate for Mercs 2017 development. OK so they probably wouldn't achieve it but if they sort out reliability they should have decent power.
    Can't believe Honda can still get things so wrong. I just hope the thing holding them back reliability wise is restricting power in a big way. Fix that and away they go, well hopefully.
     
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    Read somewhere that vibrations are Hondas big issue. I hope the story isn't true as that is exactly the kind of fundamental problem you'd discover with dyno testing.
     
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    I read same thing. They must have vibration data from previous years. So why didn't they test for vibration on a dyno rig? Seems another rookie mistake if true!
     
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    I guess that depends on whether the vibration issue is the engine creating vibrations, or vibrations through the chassis effecting the engine. In the former case you'd hope you could see it on a dyno, but the latter might not be identified until you run the car. I don't think Honda would have quite let Mclaren throw them under the bus like they have if some fault could be ascribed to the car.
     
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    Alonso has just signed a deal with Adidas so I doubt he is going to quit anytime soon.
     
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    Probably so he can get a bit of grip for when he turns the McHonda into a Flintstones car and reverts to foot power :) Might be his only chance of getting to the finish!!
     
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    This guy is great.

     
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    Interesting. I thought chassis sharing between teams was not allowed? Looks like Ferrari and Haas has exactly the same dimensions, the rake was the same last year as well!
    Merc seem to have gone much longer than the rest that might make Monacco interesting.
     
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    For 2016, Haas were as close to a Ferrari customer team as was allowed, using as many parts as they possibly could from them. It would make sense to have the same wheelbase too I suppose so that the packaging solutions could be identical. Perhaps it also helps with wind tunnel correlation too? I don't know how those rules have been tightened/changed for 2017, but I suppose it isn't a great surprise that they went in the same direction.
     
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