Grand Prix thread 2015 Japanese Grand Prix Chat and Predictions

Yes the VA group .

 

At what point does it become 'crowding'? I'm never quite sure as it seems to be arbitrarily applied. I thought if you didn't leave space, you were due for a drive through the pits. Never liked the rule, but if you apply it to one then you have to apply it to all.

 

You're allowed to do all sorts at the start it seems. Weave all over the place, all sorts. The ricciardo massa incident was bad luck when you see the contact.

 

Apparently I have seen that Toto explained to the press, "Nico had an overheated power-unit throughout turns 1 and 2".

"Overheated" hahaha.

 

Wolff added: "It is always very difficult to race your team-mate. It was a tricky situation for both. Lewis said he had understeer and he ran out of track and two cars side by side in Turn Two is difficult anyway."

Mercedes need to get their story straight before talking to the media.

 

Exactly.. They should really come out and say it..

"Lewis is our guy, our #1, Rosberg gets paid lots of money to drive the best car.. but should Lewis be within the same postcode of Rosberg, he needs to get out of the way... sharpish or we'll mess about with his engine... again!"

 

True. They may as well come out and say Lewis is #1, if that is his status. No shame in it, but better off admitting it than pretending that the drivers are totally free to race, as at the moment it's making Rosberg look like a right chump.

Hamilton has earnt the right to be a no.1. There have been some very well paid no.2's in the past, so Rosberg will get rewarded for his submissive part in the team if he wants to go down that route.

 

Said (wrote) earlier this year, that in the first season that Merc had a race/title winning car, if he wanted to get ahead of Hamilton, he had to win the WDC last year, a bit like Webber is 2010.. neither didn't and Webber ended up playing second fiddle to Vettel and history appears to be repeating itself for Rosberg, he'll continue to win the odd race but like Vettel, Hamilton will win the lions share and most likely add to his WDC titles.. Rosberg had his chance and he's blown it.. last year he had the beating of Hamilton in qualifying but would lose out to him in race conditions, this year, he's getting beaten on one lap pace and Spain and Austria aside, no where to be seen in race conditions..
Mercedes need to do us all a favour and go get Mad Max for their second seat, that'd be fun!

 

Spa has to be mentioned, Rosberg held his ground there, Hamilton made an overly aggressive move to the left like he did in Bahrain, and hit Rosberg. It was Hamilton's fault for not giving room yet Mercedes condemned Rosberg.

 

In fairness you do generally have to turn left at some point when negotiating a right-left chicane

 

Aye, he may have cut up Rosberg @ Bahrain in an unnecessary move... but can't see where Hamilton was at fault at Spa..
As per the video above, Rosberg was never ahead so why should Hamilton not attempt to turn left for a left handed corner?
If Rosberg was side by side and Hamilton then decided to turn in then I'd agree with it being his fault..

 

Rosberg stuck his nose into a gap that was always going to disappear. There was nothing 50/50 about that gap with Hamilton half a car length plus in front.

 

Don't take the bait..........

 

Everyone condemns Rosberg whatever he does, if he holds his ground he's at fault, if he gives ground, he's at fault, whereas Hamilton can pretty much do as he likes without being called to account since he accused the stewards of racism. It's pretty obvious he did it on purpose, his body language and the guilt way he spoke about it afterwards pretty much confirms it.
But the Golden goose must lay it's egg, so illegal tests, illegal tyre pressures, illegal moves are all OK if done by the Mercedes no. 1.

 

Not really, when he's raced against others, for example his overtakes against Kimi and Vettel at Bahrain, he was praised..
Think he has issues with Hamilton because..
1 - 1st rule of racing, don't take your team mate out!
2 - 2nd rule of racing see rule 1...
3 - And more importantly, he can't seem to pull a move on Hamilton because he has the same car, his lack of "game" planning hinders him and on the odd occasion he has attempted a move, he's out broke himself or hit Hamilton..

One example, for 18 laps he tried to get past Hamilton at Bahrain in 2014.. when he finally overtook him, Hamilton lined him on on the run down to turn 4 and had him by chicane at turns 5 and 6... he's a fast driver, he ain't a racer...

#JRHartley

 

Rosberg was hung out to dry by every man and his dog after Spa, yet it was Hamilton who moved to the racing line when Rosbergs nose was still there, just like it was Rosberg who moved to the racing line against DR in Hungary.
You can't blame Hamilton, it's racist and he's Senna

 

Opinion
I can understand the frustration some people have with Hamilton's overtake on Rosberg at the start. But I do not agree with it.

Not even Rosberg has raised a word of complaint. He is a racing driver and knows he'd lost the corner by the time they were exiting it. If there was an error, it was that Rosberg allowed Hamilton to get on the inside on entry to Turn 1. From that moment on, unless Hamilton locked up, he's got the job done. Rosberg was out-manoeuvred with nowhere to go except to cause an accident. I'll repeat that: if there had been a coming-together on the exit with the exact line Hamilton took, it would have been Rosberg's fault – and he knew it! Read that any way you like but I actually mean. It is not meant to be tongue-in-cheek!

 

Dr Bellend could be teasing the VAG...

 

This from the forum moderator

 

You're a moron.