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2017 Driver Lineup

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by Sportista, May 2, 2016.

  1. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    I think Ferrari, McLaren and Williams need to look at their ageing drivers and ask the questions: Are they preforming now? Will they perform next year? Will they perform in 2 years time? If its yes to 1 or less of those then they need to get a driver that will fit that criteria.
     
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  2. EternalMSC

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    If they do leave their respective teams it will probably follow this route;

    Massa--> Most likely WEC or Touring cars.
    Button--> Williams for one year.
    Raikkonen--> Renault (who are offering him a 2 year contract if he leaves Ferrari very sparse rumours), or rally cross etc.
     
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  3. Smithers

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    I still think Button can do a job and whilst it's unfair to judge either McLaren driver I fail to see what Alonso has offered over Button, yet he is still considered one of the top 3.

    Button's work ethic and sponsor friendly image put him ahead of both Kimi and Massa - I'm sure he would drive for free in a fast car - pretty much what he did for Brawn. It wouldn't surprise me if ends up in the Ferrari on a one year deal if one of the preferred younger drivers are not available.
     
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  4. Julius Caesar

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    I'd be surprised if Kimi's 2016 has warranted a sacking. He's been better than last year and Ferrari kept Massa for years and Raikkonen despite the last two years being woeful. They don't seem to care much how their second driver performs.

    If i was in charge of Ferrari i'd hire Perez but i don't see it happening.

    Jenson is almost certain to be dropped in favour of Vandoorne. Frankly i wouldn't care much at this point as i've grown to hate McLaren over the last few years. I'd much rather see him in a Williams.
     
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  5. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    what about der Hulk? he's gotta be looking over his shoulder.
     
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  6. Smithers

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    As much as Hulk has disappointed as of late, he still warrants a drive. I suppose the question is at what cost? This is the issue with the massive amounts of direct and indirect funds drivers can, and do bring with them.
     
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  7. EternalMSC

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    Perez has handed Hulk his backside this year contrary to popular predictions.
     
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  8. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Just what happened to perez at mclaren?....actually I didn't think he did that bad in a first season vs a world champion.
     
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  9. EternalMSC

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    He gave Button a hard time, and that didn't sit well with Mclaren top brass.
     
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  10. El_Bando

    El_Bando Can't remember, where was I?
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    Better not go to Ferrari then and show how overrated Vettel is. :emoticon-0127-lipss
     
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  11. EternalMSC

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    Well thats it really. Upset the peace now with Seb and Kimi or pull in Perez and risk upsetting the progress for short-term success.
     
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  12. Smithers

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    I guess he's experienced, supposedly helps development, and brings the car home in ok-ish positions most weeks, without threatening Vettel. It's an easy life for Ferrari with that lineup.
     
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    Kimi Raikonnen earning yet more Millions with his stagnant, unenthused embarassment of an attitude. I've really become disappointed and disillusioned with him.

    He's been absolutely outperformed in every way since the rule changes came in 2014.

    If one ageing driver deserved a second seat at Ferrari it's Jenson Button. But that's life- he'll probably be dropped my McHonda this year and they'll become super fast, such is his luck.

    Hopefully Williams can work out how to build a car with downforce unlike the rigid drag racers they've built and underdeveloped for 3 years! That's if Massa makes way.
     
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  16. Julius Caesar

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    Was Massa got 4 years of being awful so it's only fair that Kimi gets the same.

    As I said before I don't think Ferrari really care. They'd rather it was one car per team.
     
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    It is all a bit weird, Kimi getting another year and the announcement so early in the season, very unlike Ferrari. It's almost like Danny, Max and Saintz being signed forced Ferrari to give Kimi another year. Nico has lost a little bargaining tool too. All sounds like there is a bigger plan at work and Kimi is just filling while Ferrari wait for their choice to be available.
     
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  18. Sportista

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    FFS - Does any one remember when F1 used to be the pinnacle of Motorsport?
     
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  19. taeleon

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    Funny you say that, Sky seem to like the rumour they are waiting for Lewis Hamilton's deal to be up with Merc.

    http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...17-but-are-ferrari-waiting-for-lewis-hamilton
     
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  20. SgtBhaji

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    I miss the greats... Like Eric Van Der Poele and Zsolt Baumgartner.
     
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