so google is your answer, no real argument but rely others to do that for you..... The truth the answer whatever arguments it doesn't fit in with your view, regardless and thats the get ouy clause... Do you think those claims haveny been refuted before and something new! the funny thing is half the people that make the claim simply know the translation and thats, which isnt the Qur'an, Qur'an if you are going to refute something at least know the subject...
We spoke about similarities between the bible and quran earlier However, as it is written: "No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him." (1 Corinthians 2:9) Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "ALLAH SAID, ‘I have prepared for My righteous slaves (such excellent things) as no eye has ever seen, nor an ear has ever heard nor a human heart can ever think of.’" (Sahib Al-Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 93, Number 589) According to this hadith from al-Bukhari, Allah uttered the above words that are obviously taken and only slightly modified from what the beloved Apostle wrote in his first letter to the Corinthians. Muhammad evidently plagiarized Paul’s quote and passed it off as revelation from God. Do keep in mind that the wording is Paul’s own summation of the OT and cannot be found in any source predating Paul’s writings. Would it be fair to assume that this plagiarism is amazing knowing that we agree that Muhammad could not read.
You really dont listen do you.... I never said there was nothing written, you really need to do some real research and read some book's this isnt the place for learning too many trolls... So how has the chinese whispers worked out over the last 1400 years?
What a total non-answer. You've just avoided everything and done exactly what you've accused me of. Everything's been refuted? No. No, it hasn't. You're relying on others for your refutations, but apparently that's fine. As for people relying on translations, that just points out another flaw in the Abrahamic religions. A perfect god wants people to believe in him, so he relies on translations of translations of ancient, unverifiable and contrasting texts. What a brilliant plan. Flawless.
ok, give me your take on that false claims as you say...and i will respond later on as im about to go out... Yours wouldn't be first claim...the verse you pointed put from google, i assume you read thr whole surah etc and came to conclusion its false? stop being a child and not knowing a subject and then jumping up and down...if dont know then learn like everyone else does...
you wrote it down to stop the alterations. TBH, there's no point in continuing this conversation, you believe a book that's opening pages 'reveal' that God doesn't know what the **** he is doing. Personally I find the Koran, the Bible and the torah to be highly blasphemous, they make God look like an over emotional moronic country bumpkin that changes his mind quicker than a woman choosing clothes on a night out.
Did a priest bum raid you or muslim refuse you because your dumb chav? lot of inherent hatered for people of faith.... ****s like you will be ****s for life...
This is the problem with your essay, again I must say, you make assumptions based in baggage. I don't deny evolution or the big bang, just highlight failings people put forward. Usually people who dont understand it or fall for stuff as told by someone. I like your plane analogy though. Created by someone and changed ever the years = evolution
You're the one being childish. You're just claiming victory and stomping off. Sounds familiar. I've pointed out what the claims are and what the responses are, too. You've merely said that it's a done deal and that's it. I'm familiar with the controversies. You're the one that needs to learn about them.
This is going well...... Are there any other religions we can pick to bits? What about the Sabbath switches in the World of Judaism? That's a bit bonkers, as is chopping off foreskins tbh, and those daft beards and the ringlets
Really, so you talking crap...what does the opening page say! Thats fine, then dont jump up with claims you cannot substantiate....
I can't believe how precious some folk get over a book. I can't imagine a world where I need to read a book to understand how to be a good boy and how to be nice to folk, I just assume things like that occur naturally.
The point I was making was to me this seems as though the quran was initially written and not the recanted words direct from God to Muhammad. I also suspect it has used the bible as a cornerstone of its faith. When you consider that the christian faith is based on paganism this sets a dangerous precedent for ALL religions using it. I'm not questioning your faith in what you believe but helping you to understand my standpoint as it is one of the reasons I am atheist. I see no plausible reasons to base my would be faith in something for me that has too many loopholes and grey area's. Thanks for the exchange and enjoy your day.