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Lee Charnley Arrested by HMRC

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by GeordieHalfbreed, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. Consett Mag

    Consett Mag Well-Known Member

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    The NHS is on its knees. I've never known shortages such that we live with now. I qualified as a nurse back in 1989 and we've had effective pay cuts for 5 years.
    Only chance for improvement of the service is for labour to get in.

    So we're f*ckd really.
     
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    Let's not go giving them any more ideas!!!
     
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    if the fa act quickly there will be no need for a playoff final
    and because they want every last penny from the play offs they wont be quick
     
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  4. General Lee Speaking

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    Quick about what? HMRC are only starting to look at this since they have only just got access to documents. They are probably months away from deciding whether to charge anybody, if at all, and then there will be months of court hearings and legal process before any potential judgements and only after that might the FA act. Besides the timescales, it's looking less and less likely that NUFC have done anything wrong here and the FA may have no action to take at all. What could the FA do before 29th May?
     
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  5. Dorty Dogbreath

    Dorty Dogbreath keeper of the glow

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    If Charnley has fiddled the tills, I reckon ashley would have either suspended or got shot of him. As it appears he hasn't, maybe Ashley is confident nothing amiss has happened. Maybe this is the biggest sign of all that we will be in the clear?
     
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  6. Delusional Full Stop

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    There goes the silverware to pay the VAT bill.
     
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  7. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace

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    Relegation has certainly been a good tactic to enhance our silverware. We should do it every other season.
     
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  8. Beardsley's Stylist

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    Going by this picture it doesn't look like Mike has an issue with Lee.
     
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  9. Obi Wan

    Obi Wan keeper of the peace

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    True. If there was any real indication that Lee had been caught up in any illegal activity then surely Mike would distance himself (or distance Lee from the club ).
     
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  10. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    So, we have launched a legal challenge over the tax probe.

    Any legal beagles know what we could possibly be challenging or is this another monumental **** up by the board?
     
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    Apparently HMRC has said that we are not allowed to claim Haidara's salary as a cost as no one in their right mind would pay him to play football. We are challenging that ruling.
     
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  12. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Rafa has played him a couple of times <whistle>
     
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    Darren Peacock’s Ponytail Well-Known Member

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    Thought we had some lawyers on here?
     
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    i think Trev has something to do with that profession, and maybe haslam too?
     
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    Trev, Haslam - what is this **** all about? What can our legal challenge be all about?
     
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  16. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    There's no point relying on Trev.........
     
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  17. Delusional Full Stop

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    Free advice???? You're wanting free advice? I don't know the meaning of the words!!!!

    <grr>































    Mind it's not the only words I don't know the meaning of.

    :emoticon-0111-blush
     
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  18. Dorty Dogbreath

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    It could be that we are in the clear having done nothing underhand and want compen for all the bad publicity caused.
     
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    Seriously though there are a number of areas which could promote an application of this sort.

    From the very limited information available it might relate to the fact that NUFC obtained legal advice on these contracts involving the transfers and are likely arguing that HMRC should not have sight of that documentation under the guise of legal privilege.

    Adopting my usual thorough stance I have copied an article which sums this up but note the end part

    "The concept of legal privilege provides that certain communications between a client and his solicitor are privileged and immune from subsequent disclosure to a third party. When legal privilege has been established neither the client nor the solicitor can for any reason be compelled to disclose details of this communication.

    The rationale behind this principle is that: “it assists and enhances the administration of justice by facilitating the representation of clients by legal advisers.... thereby inducing the client to retain the solicitor and seek his advice and encourage(s)... full and frank disclosure of the relevant circumstances to the solicitor.” Privilege over documents covers traditional paper communications such as letters, notes and memos of conversations and documents incorporating or reproducing legal advice. It also includes items such as e-mails, voicemails, computer databases and tape recordings.

    Legal professional privilege will not exist in situations where communications exist in furtherance of conduct which is considered by the courts to be criminal, fraudulent or contrary to the interests of justice."


    Also a link to try and summarise legal privilege without my having to write a lot out.

    https://www.dlapiper.com/en/uk/insights/publications/2016/01/win-wise-legal-professional-privilege/

    Without any more facts it's impossible to say what the application is about or the prospects of it being ultimately successful. Again my guess is that the application probably applies to some of the documents taken and not all.

    An alternative thought would be that NUFC are arguing that HMRC acted outside their scope of what they were allowed to do or had no reasonable grounds for taking the action that they did in seizing the documentation in the first place but again at this stage that's just pure speculation.
     
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    Issues regarding the warrant used by HMRC have been raised, it was apparently unlawful, all materials seized by HMRC have been ordered to be returned and the tax officers have been banned from examining any material, Mr Justice Supperstone has said that it was arguable on several grounds that the search warrant was obtained unlawfully, he has stated that there must be a full High Court hearing of the issues which will be heard next month over the 27th and 28th of July.
     
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