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Effect of Brexit

Discussion in 'Watford' started by Davylad, Mar 26, 2016.

  1. oldfrenchhorn

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    I suspect cologne that there is a division of opinion in how to deal with the UK. If Macron is elected in France he will be taking a far harder line than Hollande. All we can be sure of is that all of the remaining nations will have a united approach, agreed this weekend, so a change of President here will not change that. When the accounts have been sorted, something that the UK added to in the last quarter by not paying up, then citizens rights can be dealt with. The complexity of the latter could take two years alone, and then trade deals could be discussed. At a guess we will still be talking about us leaving the EU not at this election, but the one in five years time.
     
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  2. colognehornet

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    There is no ransom being demanded SH. The British newspapers have no right to be talking about final sums - the EU. wants to agree on the formula for calculating Britain's exit bill, not the final amount. The final amount will depend on Britain's share of all EU. assets and liabilities at the time of leaving - and nobody knows, as yet, exactly what will be included in both of these. Once they have established a framework as to calculating assets vs. liabilities then discussions on other matters can go ahead - they are not saying ''pay up or we go no further'' as some of the news papers in Britain are saying.
     
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    In five years time most in the UK will be talking about the excellent decision taken in 2016.
     
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  4. superhorns

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    Nobody is saying a large bill will need to be paid first. Merkel has made it clear agreement will need to be made on the ransom details before talks on trade. If any agreement can be made it will split into payments over a number of years. It could be the EU owes the UK money!!.
     
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    Why do you use the negative term 'ransom' SH. ? It is clear that a separation involves settling of outstanding financial matters, just as a divorce would. You appear to have decided already that whatever sum is involved will be unreasonable, and done through spite - and nothing I can say will change your mind on this. What is important is that, whatever sum is involved, it is done transparently - and that this is reported accurately in the British media, the latter of which I doubt will be the case. Unfortunately the EU. has no daily newspapers.
     
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    The Conservative party has embarked upon a fundraising drive among its wealthiest donors with the aim of raising £19m for the general election. The move follows concerns that the party’s income has dipped sharply since the EU referendum because pro-remain donors and friends of David Cameron are keeping their cheque books shut. In contrast with the Conservatives, Labour’s finances are relatively healthy following an influx of more than 500,000 members. In 2015, the party paid off its debt and has consistently raised more than the Conservatives since March 2016, according to Electoral Commission records.

    The result of this election shouldn't rely on which party can raise the most funds, and in any case the parties simply borrow to spend whatever they feel is required.
     
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  7. colognehornet

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    The Greens had a budget of 180,000 pounds at the last election - just to keep things in perspective.
     
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    The figures bandied about by the EU seems extremely unreasonable when The EU financial affairs sub -committee has commented 'it is possible to arrive at a wide range of figures for any EU claim'. It also said the UK would not be liable at all in the cases of a 'disorderly' or 'cliff-edge' Brexit.

    The French with Macron will be particularly spiteful, I suppose no wonder when you realise how much the UK subsidises France each year. The French may have to pay their fair share in future.
     
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    I've just looked at some interesting charts. France is actually the biggest contributor to the UK rebate, I can see why they have been trying to stop it for many years. France puts in more than the UK but takes much more out, presumably the CAP. On a net basis the UK was the second largest contributor even with the rebate.
     
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    I have often wondered why you constantly keep trying to slag off the French. I did wonder why you didn't always attack Austria, or Holland, or any of the other nations within the EU. Knowing that you spent time out here, and you couldn't manage to stay for whatever reason, I can only assume that your plans didn't work out, and despite the years you still resent that. Maybe you feel more secure in England, but many people can live quite happily alongside people who just happened to be born in a different place than them. I am watching with hope that the old two party system that you seem wedded to is declining, not just in England, but in places across Europe that seem far more enlightened.
     
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    I wonder why you constantly slag off the British. You seem to be hoping for the UK to fail in its forthcoming negotiations. I would like France to more successful, although with Macron it will probably be more years of the same stagnation.

    I returned to the UK because I had started a business that was growing rapidly. It is now very well established as one of the leading suppliers to the NHS in its field. I enjoyed my time in France, I have many friends there. On balance it is far superior living in the UK, apart from the dodgy weather. Holidays to Europe are plentiful and good value.

    You might have to live to 200 to see the demise of the two party system in the UK. The only change that may have taken place is the decline of the Labour Party. The Conservatives are the natural party of government for the foreseeable future. The Labour Party could merge with some Lib Dems to form a new centre party but the Tories will always be there.
     
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  13. yorkshirehornet

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    YAWN.. cmon you can do better than tit for tat.. .surely???

    AHA so you are one of those private companies making money out of the NHS... says it all about all you post really....

    My tax is paying for your foreign holidays....

    If I got in I would end your contracts tomorrow..............
     
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    There are thousands of companies supplying the NHS. My company broke an overcharging cartel of multinational companies many years ago saving the NHS millions.

    I've got a trip to Dubrovnik booked for next week, father in law willing.
     
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  15. yorkshirehornet

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    still a nice little earner from public money eh.....

    (I am just questioning the principle here....)

    Wish him well <ok>
     
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  17. yorkshirehornet

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    The original post on this thread. It just shows how quickly players move on at our club. I think I am just joining in with some of our 'lost our soul' brigade. I never thought that would happen to me. I will not criticise the Pozzo's but something is definitely lacking.
     
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    Ah. Deflection. Changing the subject. A Trumpism, even. Pathetic.
     
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    Is this English?
     
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