Off Topic ****s going down in London

What are you bison that opinion on?

 

Actually, gnus make ideal pets and are no trouble at all to feed and keep. So much so that I'm thinking of starting a 'No gnu onus' thread.

 

To err is human, to forgive is bovine.

 

Another death sadly
75 year old man that had been injured in the attack but hasn't pulled through

RIP

 

RIP

 

That's sad.

RIP.


Apologies for the poor puns earlier, I forgot which thread I was on.

 

I agree but historically law enforcement hasn't been about working with communities. See miner's strikes, Hillsborough and police brutality and harassment.

 

Some relatively recent events, such as the miners strike are exceptions that prove (test) the rule.

 

There you go with those silly sweeping statements again.

 

http://www.not606.com/threads/london-attack.345354/page-6#post-10362974

QUOTE="ELLERS, This really brings it home.

We were in London last October and visited the Houses of Parliament. An officer by the name of Keith Palmer was happy to pose with us for a photo once he learned that we had travelled all the way from Alice Springs in the Northern Territory, Australia.
It sent a shiver down my spine when I realised Keith was the officer who was killed in the London terror attack which took place last night.
I spoke with Keith for quite a while and found him to be a genuinely nice bloke. He said he would love to visit Australia with his family one day. The girls suggested if he did make it to Australia, he should visit Alice Springs and we would show him how special a place it is.
That will never happen now, all because he was doing his job and trying to keep people safe in the face of yet another crazy terror attack. Our thoughts are with his wife and family.
With everyone so suspicious of everyone else these days, he was happy to chat and smile for a photo with a bunch of Territorians on holiday whilst still remaining vigilant and carrying out his duties as a police officer.

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Well, I disagree with that, I'd say law enforcement as a national institution is a relatively new thing in this country's history and for the most part it's had a repressive rather than custodial role. Granted, the UK police are nowhere near as militarised and repressive than US law enforcement but it will always serve the interests of the state.

 

You really are a silly ****.

 

Thanks.

 

You're welcome.

You're also a funny ****.

You seem the self entitled type who thinks he's clever as well as being worldly.

It's funny because one day you'll realise you weren't clever at all, you were just silly and a little bit cringey.

 

Well, I wasn't trying to be clever or funny but if that's how you took that, then okay. I think you're being a bit precious just because I criticised the history of law enforcement.

 

See? Pompous over-inflated view of yourself right there.

You weren't criticising the history of law enforcement, you were cherry picking small elements of a large entity, from tiny moments in time, ignoring all the good that's been done, and continues to be done, to make yourself look daft.

But in your own mind, you're dismissing the entire history of something you know nothing other than what you've read online.

I called you an internet anarchist (and it wasn't a compliment) some time ago. I hit the nail on the head.

Try watching The Young Ones, you remind me of Rik Mayalls character.

 

Yeah, but you've not offered anything to suggest the role of police has been more positive than negative. I'm not dismissing the history outright, Robert Peel's reforms tried to introduce ethical policing but the reforms proved unsuccessful, because instead of policing by consent it was policing by the state, as case studies of repression prove.

 

Statute law is always repressive, it imposes the will of government on the people by its nature.
Common Law works on the principle of argued reason and is therefore less repressive.
Police have to work in this country to uphold the rule of law and that includes both common and statute law. The uncomfortable truth is that without rules and some one to punish the breaking of those rule, there is no society no society, no ethics or beliefs and no morals. The end of civilization.
I bet you still queue in MacDonalds.

 

My opposition is to centralised, professional law enforcement, not to rules. Most anarchists believe in the principle of mutual aid and deliberative democracy as an alternative to statutory law and order.

 

Anarchists still queue in MacDonalds.
They do not push to the front.
They use the right sex toilet
They pay the capalists burger masters, with the plastic card from the capalist banking system.
They drive their road taxed cars listening to the state sponsored radios.
They sneer at the military that enables them the freedom to sneer.
They end up living in a morgaged property that they sell for a profit in later life.
They pay into pension plans that invest is the capalist projects they hate.
They are never the poor oppressed always the rich radical who,can afford a choice.